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  1. #41
    +1 DeltaB
    "Don't be afraid to see what you see."
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  3. This whole case is nuts

    Nothing in the man's story checks with the video. Nothing. He said he first pulled the LCP, but in fact it was the Judge. He said the 2nd guy ran when he saw the Judge, but he ran after the first shot. The dude then turns his back on the downed BG (who went down like a sack of flour - just folded) not once but twice, on the way out to fill the air with lead and then again on the way in to grab the LCP.

    It might have been plausible if he had shot the downed BG BEFORE he went out, so as to neutralize the threat to his wife and the women in the store, but that is a longshot. It certainly looks like he came back in, calmly swapped guns and executed to BG. Really, everything he did was okay except pulling the trigger on the LCP. And talking (lying, actually) to the cops.

    He gave me the impression of someone who had prepared well and had long ago decided how he would deal with this kind of situation, then went and did just that. If true, it makes him no better than the BG who tried to rob him.

    Strange. And him a decorated vet. Ah well, a NOT GUILTY verdict could still be possible. It isn't the same as innocent.
    "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms ... make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants ... for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Daugherty16 View Post
    It certainly looks like he came back in, calmly swapped guns and executed the BG.
    Also notice about 15~20 seconds were clipped out of the timeline from the security camera while he was outside, so he left his store unattended for nealy half a minute before calmly strolling back inside.
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  5. As information comes forward, it appears that there may be a historical record of Ersland's mental issues...

    http://newsok.com/mental-state-may-p...ad_story_photo
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  6. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaB View Post
    As information comes forward, it appears that there may be a historical record of Ersland's mental issues...

    http://newsok.com/mental-state-may-p...ad_story_photo
    i read that from another board and all I can say is that pharmacist is in BIG trouble. I just think he has too many things stacked against him to beat this wrap without a stacked jury. Good shoot or not it does not look good for him.

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    would have not shot FIVE more times or chased the other out but would have done the same probably
    hard to say untill in that situation

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    Unfortunately he was either uneducated on when his right to use deadly force stopped, or he was flustered and steamrolled right into what appears to have been a cold blooded murder.


    Cold blooded murder? After you've just been threatened by a shotgun? Its not like this kid was an innocent bystander.

    Please enlighten us as to when our right to use deadly force ends. Is that before or after they beat you up in the alley 4 weeks later after they get out of the hospital and on bail? ...or maybe its after they knock off a few more pharmacies? ...kill a few people? ...burn your house down? ...or maybe its after they rape and beat your wife? ...your mother? ...or they sue you into the poor house because they claim you're a racist, privileged, rich white guy that just has it in for 16 year or black kids? Which one would that be?

    I'm confused as to when the threat is neutralized?

  9. Anytime an Armed Robber is killed, its always a good thing... but lets talk about Laws, courts, and gun owners/CC. You can NOT shoot a person whose treat is stopped, if the Target is on floor you can't walk up to the target and put 4-5 more shots into the target, it just doesn't look good in court as mentioned in this threat.

    In court the truth doesn't matter, its only what you can prove, or not prove that matters. Now if he shot the target and assess the situation to be safe, then called 911, his testimony would sound passive in order to defend, rather than a person out to kill in rage. Hopefully the Judge will rule in his favor when sentencing if he's found guilty.

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    He was found guilty and sentenced to life.

    Watch the video. He screwed up.

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    Recent Xmas eve shooting in Bluffton, SC where a tow truck operator booted a car parked illegally in a subdivision,. In the aftermath of a dispute with the car owner, who "brandished" a firearm in his waistband, the tow truck operator left the key to the boot near the car and then went back to his truck, retrieved his firearm and fired 5 bullets---the first one apparently hit the car owner in the arm, and, I understand that the car owner then turned to get out of the field of fire. After he turned, the tow truck operator fired 4 more shots that hit the car owner in the back and he was now laying face down near his car. The car owner's gun was somewhere in the vicinity and not in his waist, which would indicate that he had drawn his firearm sometime during this incident. The tow truck operator, now next to the incapacitated car owner, fired one more time into the car owner's head and said to his brother and others---"feliz navidad". Like the case in this thread, that last shot had nothing to do with eliminating the threat--that was over. He will be tried on manslaughter. IMO, up until the last shot, the thrreat had started and continued with the car owner, but that last shot, like the shot by the pharmacist is difficult to excuse, regardless of any of the previous actions.

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