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    4 Killed, 9 Others Shot at Pittsburgh-Area Gym

    Another nut and the anti gun libs will have a field day with this.

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    4 Killed, 9 Others Shot at Pittsburgh-Area Gym

    Wednesday, August 05, 2009



    Michael Henninger, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette via AP


    BRIDGEVILLE, Pa. — Investigators were trying to piece together the motive of a gunman who walked into an exercise class in suburban Pittsburgh and fired dozens of shots, killing three women and himself and injuring nine other women, authorities said.

    Two women and the man believed to be the shooter died at the scene Tuesday night and another woman died on the way to a hospital, Allegheny County police Superintendent Charles Moffatt said at a news conference in the parking lot of the LA Fitness center in Collier Township early Wednesday.

    Moffatt said police were not sure who the target of the shooting was but that the gunman went into the health club planning to shoot several people — firing "multiple" weapons "indiscriminately," Moffatt said — and did not say anything before unleashing a burst of bullets.

    "He walked right into the room where the shootings occurred as if he knew exactly where he was going," Moffatt said.

    The violence rocked Collier, a bedroom community of about 5,300 residents near Interstate 79, some eight miles southwest of downtown Pittsburgh.

    Moffatt said the gunman was a member of the health club and had identification but that police needed to check fingerprints and speak to his family to confirm his identity. The Allegheny County Medical Examiner said three of the four victims had been positively identified early Wednesday, but their names would likely not be released before midmorning.

    Moffatt said police recovered at least two guns from the scene and that a note was found in the shooter's duffel bag, but he would not say whether the shooter had written it.

    "I don't think anyone could have stopped him," Moffatt said.

    Five victims arrived in critical condition at UPMC Mercy Hospital, but three were upgraded to serious condition by early Wednesday. Two women remained in fair condition at Allegheny General Hospital, hospital officials said. Two female victims were in stable condition at St. Clair Hospital, spokesman Rich Sieber said Tuesday, but their conditions were not immediately available Wednesday.

    By early Wednesday, Moffatt said two victims remained critical, two others were in surgery and two had reportedly been treated and released, with the others still hospitalized. Moffatt said police know the names of the wounded women, but aren't releasing them immediately, and he couldn't specify which victims were in which hospital.

    Joann Gazzam, who was taking part in the weekly "Latin impact" dance aerobics class, saw the gunman walk to the back of the room near some weights, set down a bag and fumble with it for a few minutes before coming up with what appeared to be two guns and opening fire, according to her sister, Debi Wozniak, of suburban Dormont.

    Gazzam told Wozniak that the instructor was among those who appeared to have been shot, and that the gunman had killed himself.

    "She told me, 'Debi, I seen everything. Oh, my God, I seen everything. I seen him pull out the guns,"' said Wozniak, who usually attends the class but was running late Tuesday and didn't make it.

    The gunman walked in the room, turned off the lights and, at first nobody knew what was happening, said Stacey Falk, 26, of Bridgeville, who was in the class.

    "All of us girls were just ducking behind each other and it was just, you know, I was behind a girl, one of the girls in front to get hit, and when he was in the opposite corner shooting, I booked it," she told WPXI-TV.

    Loretta Moss, 44, of McDonald, said she was exercising on a treadmill when she heard a popping noise.

    "I didn't pay any attention, and the next minute, people were screaming," said Moss, who had come to the gym Tuesday night for the first time in a couple of weeks. She said she then heard more pops.

    "There was like a whole spray of them. I'd say about 15 altogether, and then people started screaming and yelling and started running out the building," she said.

    "We laid down, and then after the last set of ... gunshots, we got up, and someone said run."

    Moss said she then saw two young women bleeding, one shot in the leg and one in the shoulder. She said she checked on the pulse of the lady shot in the leg.

    "She was screaming, 'It's burning, just please call the ambulance,"' Moss said.

    Richard Walker of Tulsa, Okla., who is in the area working on oil rigs, was playing basketball near the exercise room when he heard shots.

    "The next thing I know, everybody's going, 'Run, run,"' he said. He said heard about 12 shots before he started moving and another eight or nine as he was leaving the building. He led a woman who had been shot in the thigh outside the building about 50 yards.

    "She just kept saying, 'He's gonna kill me."' Walker said she didn't elaborate.

    The fitness center, which opened last year, is in a strip mall called the Great Southern Shopping Center, where a few businesses were destroyed in a 2006 fire. The fitness center said in a statement: "Each of us in the LA Fitness family are shocked and saddened by the senseless acts of violence that took place."
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    Attack plot online!

    The shooter kept a running internet blog. According to the blog he had tried twice before to attack the fitness center but 'chickened out.'

    Pennsylvania Gym Shooter Kept Online Diary in Plotting the Attack - ABC News

    Blog link: http://georgesodini.com/20090804.htm Warning: Graphic
    Last edited by sixtracksfn; 08-05-2009 at 11:03 AM. Reason: Added link to blog
    From my cold dead fingers will you take my freedom. And even then you will have to pry it out with a crowbar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sixtracksfn View Post
    The shooter kept a running internet blog. According to the blog he had tried twice before to attack the fitness center but 'chickened out.'

    Pennsylvania Gym Shooter Kept Online Diary in Plotting the Attack - ABC News

    Blog link: http://georgesodini.com/20090804.htm Warning: Graphic
    Did you see the comments to the "online diary" article? There is quite the "gun control" debate going on!! Apparently we are all a bunch of "Bible thumping" gun nuts...LOL!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glockster20 View Post
    Did you see the comments to the "online diary" article? There is quite the "gun control" debate going on!! Apparently we are all a bunch of "Bible thumping" gun nuts...LOL!!

    Yeah. I love how they draw their conclusions. "Bible thumping" gun nuts. Really. I don't think this guy was. If they read his blog, they would know that he mentioned guns one out of the many entries. Clearly a gun nut.

    As for "Bible thumping," they didn't get that from the blog either. He quoted a few scriptures and mentioned going to see God and Jesus, but on account of the rest of his subject matter, language and undertone of the entire blog, "Bible thumper" does not describe this man.

    It appears the antis and libs search for any minuscule way to link the two together. Cause in the end, we're all a bunch of gun toting, right wing, conservative terrorist.
    From my cold dead fingers will you take my freedom. And even then you will have to pry it out with a crowbar.

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    I can't wait to see their stupid governor come on TV and start talking about how we need to have no guns anywhere. The part that will never come across his mind is that if the laws would allow employees to carry, they might have been able to take him out. But then again there is not much you can do to someone ready to die, only hopefully limit the amount of people he can take with him. Either way, it's sad.
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    OK, fine. Have your no guns anywhere and see what happens. Instead of four dead in a shooting, you would have 50 dead in a bombing. When will we wake up and realize that we have a real societal problem with violence, and that this violence has absolutely nothing to do with firearms? Take away the guns, and the violence will simply come out in other forms.

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    I guess they have taken his blog down. It is not available anymore.
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    There was a thread here about a year or more back regarding how many carry when they go to the gym and if so how. A few seemed to think it was paranoid to carry at the gym. I say it is not. I rest my case. As I have said before until I become telepathic and able to see the future I will carry every where I can. No exceptions.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    Kind of hard to carry to the gym with just the shorts on! That's why I was saying that if they would allow employees to carry, that would be nice, and at least they would have them. But who's to say that one of them would not snap and use it on you! I guess if you carry a gym bag with you then there would be a place to store it, but most people keep it in the locker.
    Rheaj,
    I wasn’t saying I support them taking guns away; I was just talking about their idiot governor. I seen him on one of the Sunday talk shows once and was like, man is this guy’s head in the sand or what! I can’t believe someone’s mind can be so one sided that it clouds his thought process, because anyone with a rational mind can have an opinion, but when you present the statistics as to what guns really do, they can go “well that seems interesting, although I still don’t like guns”! It at least provokes a thought, something this guy did not seem to have. Anyways it seemed like you thought I was supporting the guns being taken away. I don’t, I was trying to be funny!
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    Quote Originally Posted by chudak25 View Post
    Kind of hard to carry to the gym with just the shorts on! That's why I was saying that if they would allow employees to carry, that would be nice, and at least they would have them. But who's to say that one of them would not snap and use it on you! I guess if you carry a gym bag with you then there would be a place to store it, but most people keep it in the locker.
    Rheaj,
    I wasn’t saying I support them taking guns away; I was just talking about their idiot governor. I seen him on one of the Sunday talk shows once and was like, man is this guy’s head in the sand or what! I can’t believe someone’s mind can be so one sided that it clouds his thought process, because anyone with a rational mind can have an opinion, but when you present the statistics as to what guns really do, they can go “well that seems interesting, although I still don’t like guns”! It at least provokes a thought, something this guy did not seem to have. Anyways it seemed like you thought I was supporting the guns being taken away. I don’t, I was trying to be funny!
    My workout at the gym consists of lifting free weights and machine weights.. I carry my gun in a fanny pack with no real problem. I usually do not do any running stair climibng or the like because I generally do my running and walking outside away from the gym. The very few times that I have used a treadmill, stair climber or bike I have wrapped the strap of my fanny pace around the machine several times and the gun is right where I could access it. The great thing about the health club that I work out in is the owner is very pro gun and does not mind me wearing my gun. Of course if he was not pro gun I would just not tell him.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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