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    Quote Originally Posted by KimberRB View Post
    Total BS!
    True. BUT! It WORKS for those conducting the sting, so they keep using it.

    Those people getting caught by the investigators. The people selling the guns, (whomever they may be) are NOT the sharpest knife in the drawer, not even half smart, or they would keep their mouth shut when they take the $$$ and the person buying it asks their "sting" questions.

    They WILL catch a LOT more as time goes on. Sellers who just want to sell and don't care who they are selling to. It IS a bummer for the sellers, the government AND people like me (I am anti/against terrorists and even the bad neighbor a couple houses down from me on my street who committed a crime and lost their privilege/right to own firearms SHOULD NOT own firearms) are wanting sellers NOT to see firearms to THOSE people.

    We NEED them (sellers) to help us out a little bit. If the guy standing in front of you wants to buy your rifle/pistol/etc is a person you recognized on America's Top 10 or the bulletin board at the local post office, then PLEASE, don't sell them the firearm.

    YES, the "stings" ARE BS. But the sellers don't seem to want to clean up their act on their own.

    Remember, they are just catching the ""not so smart" ones mostly with their "little" stings. "Little" meaning $1.5 MILLION worth of taxpayers money is WRONG WRONG WRONG. Use the of the POS anti-guns people. They seem to sure get the donations.

    Luke would like to get some of "that" money I would bet! He could have USACarry running on a pure gold computer on just a very very small amount of the money "THOSE" people donate, wanting to take everyone's firearms away.

    They NEED to stick to taking them away from criminals. Never going to happen that way. They just screw with "US" because... because "WE" obey the laws.

    Sad state of affairs, no matter how we look at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KimberRB View Post
    The fact that they admit to doing a straw purchase should have got them in some hot water is that not illegal. I know it is in Ohio. So they come to this state commit a crime go back to NY and we are the bad guys. That just donít add up.Total BS!
    Kimber, staw sales are not only illegal in Ohio, they are illegal according to ATF throughout the US.

    Curious why they aren't being prosecuted, as they tried to do with the courageous young people that exposed ACORN. Or sorry, that was political wasn't it.

    Wonder what they did with these "guns" they purchased illegally, sure ATF would like to know.

    Are they saying ATF isn't doing their job, so NYC police need to fan out throughout the country to do it for them??

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    Quote Originally Posted by vn6869 View Post
    Kimber, staw sales are not only illegal in Ohio, they are illegal according to ATF throughout the US.

    Curious why they aren't being prosecuted, as they tried to do with the courageous young people that exposed ACORN. Or sorry, that was political wasn't it.

    Wonder what they did with these "guns" they purchased illegally, sure ATF would like to know.

    Are they saying ATF isn't doing their job, so NYC police need to fan out throughout the country to do it for them??
    And things like that make all of "us" good people who DO obey the laws, look bad... so the left starts shouting, LOOK AT ALL THE ILLEGAL GUNS BEING SOLD.

    Yep, not good for the rest of us when something like that happens.

    IF it IS against the law for them to own a gun, then they should NOT own a gun.

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    Even a private citizen knowingly buying from or selling to a person than cannot legally buy is illegal. Maybe not right, depending on why they can't pass background check, but still the law. So, be careful who you buy from or sell to.

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    Why is there a problem with those states an not others?

  7. How come noone in New York has questioned why over one million of their tax dollars has gone to something that affects another state. I understand that Bloomberg believes that the guns are coming back to his state, but, if the goverment is to be believed, the guns are going to Mexico. So which is it? They can't have it both ways, either the guns are going to New York or Mexico.

  8. I would like to know what these Investigators were buying in order to get $37,500 each. What happened to the guns they bought?

  9. The problem is that the law also states that the private seller isn't supposed to allow a sale to someone that they beleive wouldn't be able to pass a background check if they were to run it.

    It's a common sense requirement - basically, you're allowed to sell to someone but if you know they shouldn't have a gun - you can't sell to them.

    I don't think anyone should have a problem with that. What I have a problem with in THIS sting is that they never quite say "I cannot pass a background check because of X,Y and Z." They say things like, I probably can't pass one. That might put the sale into a gray area, but certainly not per se illegal.

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    In NC, even in a transaction between 2 individuals, the buyer is required to show the seller a "pistol permit*" or an NC CCW permit.

    "Handgun purchases require that the buyer obtain a permit from the County Sherrif's department prior to purchasing a handgun. CCW permit holders are exempted from that requirement.

    bill

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    I work for Mission Essential based out of Savannah and Hinesville, GA. We work most Georgia (gun shows of the south) gun shows. Almost every show there is rumor that someone from NYC is in the show trying to buy a firearm, weather it be from a dealer, who has to do the 4473, or from a REG Joe. Most dealers are very careful at gun shows because no one wants to go to jail or pay a big fine because of a paper work mess up. If everyone does it the legal way we should be ok for a while

    EVERYONE NEED 3 GUNS A PISTOL, SHOTGUN, AND A RIFLE... EVERYTHING ELSE IS JUST INSURANCE

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