.45acp vs 9mm - Page 8

View Poll Results: My carry caliber of choice is...

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  • 45ACP

    57 43.85%
  • 40S&W

    29 22.31%
  • 9MM

    34 26.15%
  • other

    10 7.69%
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Thread: .45acp vs 9mm

  1. #71
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    1908-1911 till now, speaks for itself.

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  3. #72
    The real reason the military switched to 9mm was to be standardized with NATO. The Seals use the 45acp because it is a better stopping round. You have to remember that a lot of the weapon decisions are made by politicians who are not really knowledgeable about the subject, not military people.

  4. #73
    I must add to this discussion that petty jealousies and nit picking about spelling have no bearing on the discussion. I find the inability to disagree agreeably without invective to detract from the argument. Let's keep things based upon fact and not personal attacks!!!!

  5. And it's use for it's stopping power in the MK23 ONLY because the military considers it an offensive weapon as opposed to the M9 as a defensive weapon. Way to take what I said and try to make it seem like you know what the hell you're talking about. Keep your google'd opinions to yourself or come up with some educated opinions of your own.

    Semper Fi

  6. the REAL deal 45 vs 9mm

    You carry what you feel best with... Most defensive situations happen within 21 feet, so trajectories aren't much consern. Terminal ballistics, outright stopping, bullet design and the users ability to control/follow up the double tap is of primary consern. Who cares what you have if your afraid to shoot or can't control? Outside of the military/law enforcement use, the lowly 22 rimfire has taken many, many lives. Having said all that, the 9mm would be a great fit for most folks with weaker arms, grip, arthiritis...you get the picture.
    Now, me personaly..If I had to pick...the 45 hands down, heavier bullet means less critical shot placement with acceptable results. Center mass shots will atleast temporarily short circuit an attacker for you to get ready for another shot or escape.
    My carry gun is a Dan Wesson 14 357 magnum...I prefer wheel guns.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by JimPage View Post
    The real reason the military switched to 9mm was to be standardized with NATO. The Seals use the 45acp because it is a better stopping round. You have to remember that a lot of the weapon decisions are made by politicians who are not really knowledgeable about the subject, not military people.
    True, the seals did switch over to 45acp however they did not switch over unitl the late 90s. I am a former Force recon marine and we use to share the same VBSS platforms with them in Chessepeake bay, Force recon companys were one of the units who never went to the 9mil when the entire conventional military went to the berettas. recon marines have always used the 191145 socom which is a tricked out $3000 piece. we used it for knock down power, the shitty thing is we still had to qualify with the 9 mil beretta to have credit for the Marine Corps pistol badge. the Seals followed with their own 45 in the sig.
    and while we are on following.............................recon marines switched over from the mp5 9mil to the m4(ar15) for cqb before the seals did as well..................................and while we are still on following.....................Seals learned their jungle techinques from the Green berets and force recon in Vietnam.
    it puzzles me why people think they are the best................... they have socom so far up their asses that they get all the good high priority missions....................i remember the Jessica lynch resuce was going to recon and the seals stepped on our toes and took it................i was on ship for tHE CAPTAIN Ogrady mission and the seals were on their way to take that one over but the Meu coloniel went ahead and launched the mission anyways so the marines would have it.
    But the topic is which caliber do i prefer to carry concealed and that would be 9 mil. it all comes down to first shot and many shots at close range.

  8. #77
    Gunther40:
    I appreciate your service and knowledge. I'm aware of the publicity associated with various special ops folks. Seems like the SEALS have mastered the publicity/image tactic best ;) SAC (Stategic Air Command) did the same thing with publicity/image making. I've flown both fighters and bombers in USAF and I know as fact that SAC pilots are not that great.

  9. yep

    Jim,

    Thank you for voicing your opinion and your experience, It seems like these certain units like sac and the seals only have the civillians fooled because plenty of guy like me and you have seen them operater and know better,

    thank you for your service as well

  10. #79
    Nothing better to start a balistic food fight than asking that ...

    There's about a million opinions on that one ... it's a compromise or personal choice between recoil, mag capacity, price of ammo (rather important for us civilians who have to pay for our own) and size.

    Personally I have an XD9SC and a XD45 compact, the first for everyday CCW and the second more for HD.

  11. #80
    jg1967:
    True. Too true, and the argument is endless. So just make your decision and live with it -- or have both and take turns. For that reason I do not knock one or the other. It's sorta like what's better, blondes or redhead?

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