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  1. #21

    Arrow 40S&W issues

    Quote Originally Posted by tpd223 View Post
    No, this was 2006. The issue was quite the opposite. The mid range 165gr stuff would run fine, full power loads like the 165 and 180gr Gold Dot would fail to feed. The issue was, and currently most often is, excessive slide velocity.
    That's odd, because typically with the Glock, and indeed pistols in general for the 40S&W it's the almost exact opposite. The problem of too little slide velocity ends up causing malfunctions including failure to strip a round off the top of the loaded magazine, failure to fully come into battery, failure to hold the slide back on an empty magazine, failure to eject, failure to extract (Rare, this one has more to do with the condition of the extractor.) and the most visably obvious malfunction, the incomplete ejection or stovepipe.

    I'd like to hear more about this. Also did they try the 357SIG?

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    choice

    We as gun owners are very lucky to have such a vast array of choices out there but on the flip side it sure does make it confusing sometimes. I am female with fairly small hands (compared to most men out there) so I have a more difficult time finding a gun that I can comfortably hold and manipulate the releases etc. For me caliber is not an issue - I shoot my husbands .45 1911 as easily and as well as I did my .40, .45 and 9mm however the problem I found with the 1911 (love that platform by the way) is that I could not access and manipulate the hammer or mag release without changing my grip/hold drastically. Not good if faced with a rapidly escalating issue where I would be forced to draw and shoot quickly so I needed to rethink my carry options.

    I spent one Saturday afternoon driving around to all the local gun shops (there are about 5 within 30-45 minutes of me) and picked up/held/manipulated many, many automatic handguns. I liked the Glock but found the grip to bulky for me to grip consistently - same with the M&P and XD. The one I kept going back to was the new Ruger SR9c - similar in size, price etc to the others but the grip felt more ergonomic and I was able to easily reach the releases (mag/slide) and it felt like my hand just 'fell' into the correct grip every time I picked it up. More than anything this proved to me just how much you really need to go out and handle as many guns as you can when deciding what to carry. Everything I looked at was considered an excellent choice by me and many others out there so it really came down to my being able to function it correctly if I ever had to use it in a clutch situation.

    Everyone has said it repeatedly and it is true - try as many as you can when choosing a carry weapon. You may someday have to stake your life or those of your loved ones on that choice.

    ps I still have the 1911 - it has become my "at home" weapon and is never far away from at least one of us when we are in the house :)
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    I am very interested in the SIG P229 too as they now have a new ergonomic grip version
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    I think all the guns mentioned would be a good choice if:
    You can shoot it well.
    You can conceal it well.
    You can get it out when you are in a hurry.
    It doesn't cost an arm and a leg to feed.

    I always carry a Ruger LCP .380 in my right front or rear pocket . Won't stop a tank but it could change someones mind. Depending on where I'm going and what I plan on doing, I carry a cross draw OWB Glock 19. Great all around gun. Never fails. Lastly in my truck I have a Glock 20 (10mm). Very powerfull and 100% dependable. You'll need a loan to feed it ammo though.

  6. #25
    I carry a Glock 30 ACP and love it dearly. I am a small female and it fits my hands like a glove. I buy my practice ammo in bulk and hit the range at least once a week. Life is good.http://www.usacarry.com/forums/image...pleasantry.gif

    The funny part is how the gun shop asked if I wanted a revolver instead due to the 45 ACP recoil. I said no, I have a S&W revolver that shoots 357 & 38's and I shoot 357 threw it regualarly. I felt I would have no problems with the 45 ammo and I was right. The glock has less recoil due to the way it fucntions and boy do I love it compared to my S&W 375 2.5 in barrel snubby which to me has way more recoil.

  7. #26
    I carry a Glock 30, also occasionally carry a G26. The difference in size between the two is noticeable, especially when sitting in a car for any significant amount of time, but I still generally prefer to have the larger round handy.

  8. As far as slide velocity failures to feed with 165 or 180.........
    Usually a little more to it than that.

    It's a combination of slide velocity (recoil spring) and mag spring quite often. They have to work well together. Plus there is the issue of the weapon being sprung right in the first place or springs getting weak, or being marginal for the loads intended.

    That is one nice thing about Glocks, you can adjust the recoil spring weight and magazine spring (extra power spring when needed) to where you need them to be for heavier loads.

    I have a couple 10MM Glocks which require heavy recoil springs AND mag springs to function properly with heavy loads.

    Unfortunately, some guns are harder to get recoil springs and mag springs for, so options are limited but in any case, make sure you use fresher than not springs both mag and recoil, if you have been shooting your weapon awhile (extended period of time, over time) kept the mag loaded for long periods (years) etc.

    When in doubt, change out the springs (mag and recoil)....general good rule if problems start cropping up.....all else being equal.

    It's easy to overlook spring condition...I do it myself from time to time.......I try to keep notes in each gun book as to rounds fired and spring changes...but sometimes I just don't get it done.

    Paul

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    While almost any pistol can be played with to get the right combination of springs, bullets, velocity, etc., having to do this with a hobby hunting pistol or a IPSC comp gun is one thing, having to do so with 350 brand new out of the bow soon to be issued duty pistols is complete ********.

    During the time period that we had our problems Indiana State Police also had the same issues. They had over 800 G22s that didn't work.

    Both of our agencies came to the same conclusion, we traded the G22s in for G17s. Haven't had an issue since.

    Our G17s run, like a quality AK; any ammo within reason (and some that isn't), any light mounted, dirty or clean, over lubed or underlubed, limp wristed or not.


    We were not the only agencies with problems.

    Since then the gen 4 G22 has been developed. Anyone care to guess why Glock needed to develop a .40 with a lot more recoil spring?

  10. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by tpd223 View Post
    During the time period that we had our problems Indiana State Police also had the same issues. They had over 800 G22s that didn't work...

    ...We were not the only agencies with problems.
    Again the only time I have heard of reliability issues with the Glock and 40S&W had to do with the downloaded 165gr. subsonics. I have never had issues with my made in 1998 Glock 22. It digests just about everything from light and fast 135gr. Corbon JHPs to 180gr. subsonic loads, it even is able to cycle 115gr. Glasers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G50AE View Post
    Again the only time I have heard of reliability issues with the Glock and 40S&W had to do with the downloaded 165gr. subsonics. I have never had issues with my made in 1998 Glock 22. It digests just about everything from light and fast 135gr. Corbon JHPs to 180gr. subsonic loads, it even is able to cycle 115gr. Glasers.

    Well, frankly, now you have heard otherwise.

    Note tghis is not just my personal experience and guns, the issues with just the two agencies involved over 1000 guns. Then there are the numerous other agencies that have had issues.

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