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    Caliber for Michigan black bear??

    well, i think the title says it all... opinions?

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    actually, let me correct myself. i guess the title doesn't say it all. i'm talking handgun personal protection in black bear areas of northern MI, particularly in the U.P., not black bear hunting.

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    .454 Casull or .500 Smith and Wesson. Nothing less.
    S&W M&P 45; Ruger GP100 .357 Magnum; Charter Arms .38 Undercover
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    really? for black bear? i woulda thought that for grizzlies or other large brown bears... i don't know how tuff these things r tho, that's y i'm askin. i was thinkn .44 mag, but thought it good to get other opinions.

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    well.. I lived in alaska for many years and to be honest a bears head is slow sloped that bullets tend to bounce off lol ... you always want to solve a bear issue without violence, blow whistles, shout loudly when walking, clap your hands etc... when all else fails, 12 gauge double ought buckshot slug double ought buckshot as to drive them back.If you have to use a handgun, would'nt that have to be awful close? Imean if the bear is far enough away, then he is not interested in you.. but I always carried a s&w 44 mag. with ahollow points when camping and fishing on my person. Just saying... not meaning anything bad. ear attacks are horrible. god bless and be careful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TKA View Post
    well.. I lived in alaska for many years and to be honest a bears head is slow sloped that bullets tend to bounce off lol ... you always want to solve a bear issue without violence, blow whistles, shout loudly when walking, clap your hands etc... when all else fails, 12 gauge double ought buckshot slug double ought buckshot as to drive them back.If you have to use a handgun, would'nt that have to be awful close? Imean if the bear is far enough away, then he is not interested in you.. but I always carried a s&w 44 mag. with ahollow points when camping and fishing on my person. Just saying... not meaning anything bad. ear attacks are horrible. god bless and be careful.
    Black bear are also a potential and growing problem here in North Carolina, especially in the mountain areas where I like to go camping. My heaviest handgun at this time is a .357 Magnum, which I'm told is too light for bears to do much good, with the general recommendation of a .44 Magnum or more (considering this right now). Another factor I was made aware of, it's a better option to carry solid core FMJ ammo in the woods, not hollow points, since the penetration and bone crunching of these bullets works better on such tough animals. Fully agree with the comments about not engaging a bear if possible. I have seen a few, and so far have not tangled with them as we've managed to keep our distance from each other to date. I do not trust them to always do so, and want to be the survivor in any encounters that turn ugly. I also have the added concern of rabid fox and such here, as well as a few really aggressive snakes (cotton mouth, copperhead, etc).

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    i certainly don't intend to intentionally tangle with 1, but want to b well protected if i happen to b in the wrong place at the wrong time. i've been told by most that .44 mag should cover me. just wanted more opinions. i had 1 local gun shop tell me .357 mag would b fine, but i'm not sure i'd feel safe enough with that. i like the .500 s&w, but the size seems awkward to carry, even with the 4" barrel, and the cost of ammo is just plain ridiculous!

  9. I lived in the U.P. of Michigan for 6 years never carried a firearm other than when bird hunting, Also never saw a Black bear, I did usually have a dog with me so they would have helped scare them away, but I would figure any loud noise would help to scare them away. The bears are hunted pretty hard in most areas with road access and run with dogs so I would not worry too much.

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    A .357 should be fine. Just dont load HP. Get a good solid.

    I spent some time in Alaska on the Wulik River sleeping with my 454 Casull and it felt small, but I would not feel too bad carrying my 45 auto with FMJ for black bears.

    Black bears kill more people than grizzlys but the odds are good you will never see one unless it is a trash bear.

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    i've read that a 9mm fmj can possibly b as effective as 45 fmj... doesn't seem right to me. maybe if it's +p? anyone know? i want to pick up something i can carry all day eyen in the woods. i think a pistol would b more comfortable than a revolver, but i'd only go that route if i can get a pistol that will do the job. would u recommend a glock 19 loaded with 124+p fmj's a glock 30 loaded with +p fmj's?

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