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    Herstal 5.7

    I've read on other forums a little abt the Herstal 5.7 and how many seem to think that it's more or less a $1000 22cal..and basically, they are correct I guess. But the more I look at one and lust for one, I really want one..I have plent of 45's here in which to choose from for EDC, not sure if I would carry the 5.7 as I would be a wee bit leary of going beyond intended target if I ever had to us eit for self defense, but good golly Miss Molly, I WANT ONE! So watcha think?
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    FN Herstal makes great guns, that is the bottom line, and the 5.7 is just that, a great gun. I am good friends with a regional production manager for FN (he actually owns and operates the training company I work for) so I have seen a bit more of the inside workings of FN but they make fantastic, accurate and dependable firearms. In fact, a very large percentage of the US militarys small arms are now FN products, like the M249 SAW and the GAU-21. As far as the 5.7 pistol is concerned, FN did a great job and the idea is sound, but the problem is in the ammunition. The gun was designed to fire the SS190 duty round which has a steel penetrator and an aluminum core. This round will penetrate IIIA body armor at 50 meters from the 5.7 pistol and 200 meters from the P90 subgun but once it encounters a soft body, i.e. human flesh, the projectile tumbles, causing a much bigger wound channel than its 5.7mm diameter while limiting over-penetration. Basically, they say that the SS190 projectile will go in and stay in whether the target is armored or not. While this is good, civilian use of the SS190 is prohibited meaning you have to make do with a standard jacketed hollowpoint or a hunting round which can have over-penetration issues as well as a small wound channel.

    All this aside, the 5.7 is a great pistol and I will have one someday soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hwhite1725 View Post
    FN Herstal makes great guns, that is the bottom line, and the 5.7 is just that, a great gun. I am good friends with a regional production manager for FN (he actually owns and operates the training company I work for) so I have seen a bit more of the inside workings of FN but they make fantastic, accurate and dependable firearms. In fact, a very large percentage of the US militarys small arms are now FN products, like the M249 SAW and the GAU-21. As far as the 5.7 pistol is concerned, FN did a great job and the idea is sound, but the problem is in the ammunition. The gun was designed to fire the SS190 duty round which has a steel penetrator and an aluminum core. This round will penetrate IIIA body armor at 50 meters from the 5.7 pistol and 200 meters from the P90 subgun but once it encounters a soft body, i.e. human flesh, the projectile tumbles, causing a much bigger wound channel than its 5.7mm diameter while limiting over-penetration. Basically, they say that the SS190 projectile will go in and stay in whether the target is armored or not. While this is good, civilian use of the SS190 is prohibited meaning you have to make do with a standard jacketed hollowpoint or a hunting round which can have over-penetration issues as well as a small wound channel.

    All this aside, the 5.7 is a great pistol and I will have one someday soon.

    +1 to that. If you "know a guy" you can get the good stuff anyway ; )
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    Is overpenetration an issue with the rounds this pistol shoots? I've read ballistics statistics for this gun, and the bullet velocities are comparable to those of rifles.

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    Have a friend here in Fl that wants to trade his 57 for a 45 .Shooting cost to high,to big for ccw

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    i carry the fiveseven every single day...and im going to be honest with you...its a big gun for conceilment. but its absolutly worth it. and as far as over penetration goes, the bullet is actually designed to NOT

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    sorry got trigger happy... it is designed to NOT over penetrate. which makes the stoping power of it astronomical. when you break it down to impact you basically have a very small projectile traveling at 2300 fps or more in some cases and then coming to a complete stop inside the target...massive damage. i cant get enough of this gun. but be prepared to spend a CRAP TONE OF MONEY of the ammo. in SC a box of 50 rounds just went from 21.50 to $29...completly stupid. for christmass i am buying my self the PS90 simbly because it is the big brother carbine for the five seven and they are just ment ot go together...but again the ammo...i mean the p90 holds 50 rounds...thirts dollars every clip. prety intense. but i say go for it...it is well worth the investment. oh and if you have the extra money to spend...you can get the fiveseven IOM...very rare..

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    Check with your local gun range if you can fire the 5.7 round. The place I go is insured by a company that prohibits it, because it is an "armor piercing" round. Basically, it'll probably go through their indoor backstop at some point or another. There is a trailer park behind it, so I'm sure the neighbors wouldn't be keen on the idea. Sounds like an awesome gun, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PascalFleischman View Post
    Check with your local gun range if you can fire the 5.7 round. The place I go is insured by a company that prohibits it, because it is an "armor piercing" round. Basically, it'll probably go through their indoor backstop at some point or another. There is a trailer park behind it, so I'm sure the neighbors wouldn't be keen on the idea. Sounds like an awesome gun, though.
    you are right about calling your gun range and checking it out first because the whole insurance thing is very real...how ever...as a civilian you can not "LEAGALY" own the armor piercing rounds. the only ammo available to civillian's is the sporting round, and at that long of a distance...its not going to get through their barrier. believe me..i have done many ballistic test with this round to see its true capability...and its f-ing amazing what it can do...but at short range..at least with the sporting round

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    Damnit, you guys! You're making me want to forego my next couple of rent payments to purchase one of these!
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