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    Looking for compact single stack 40 caliber pistol.

    Sorry if this has been asked before but I'm looking for a single stack compact or sub compact pistol for conceal carry in a 40 S&W. I've seen a bunch in 9 mm like the Taurus slim, beretta nano and lc9 or lc9s in Ruger but the only one so far in a 40 I've seen is the smith and Wesson mp shield performance center.
    Not a bad looking pistol, just looking for whatever else may be out there.

    Thanks.


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    I like them Springfields, just wish they came with a slide saftey like the smith and Wesson in my opening post.....


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    The S&W M&P Shield 40 comes in multiple variants and configurations. If you want the manual safety, you want to look at the standard S&W M&P Shield 40. Note that the manual safety is not easy to manipulate, to the point that those that do not like manual safeties do not have a problem with having one on the S&W M&P Shield. It is so difficult to manipulate that you can't accidentally engage it.

    The Performance Center versions come with a ported barrel and a slightly better trigger. If you can't handle the snap of the .40 without a ported barrel, then you might just want to get the 9mm version anyway. The ported barrel does reduce bullet speed and therefore terminal performance. The standard trigger will become quite smooth after a 1,000 rounds or so, so there is no need for the Performance Center trigger. The Performance Center line is geared toward sport shooters.

    As for sights, the S&W M&P Shield 40 comes with different options here as well. The standard rear sight is slanted, meaning you won't be able to rack the slide one-handed off your belt or some other hard corner. The Tritium night rear sight is less slanted and has some edge. I would stay away from the fiber sights. They do break, meaning a fiber rod will come loose and you will lose it. I personally prefer XS Big Dots.

    Note that in firearms training circles, the S&W M&P Shield 9 and 40 count as good to go, meaning the firearm has been proven to be very reliable and user friendly for self defense purposes. Many do prefer the 9 over the 40 though (i.e., one more round) and without manual safety (i.e., no need for a feature that is not used).

    Go to a range that rents it and try it out. You will love it.

    PS: Note that I don't have the S&W M&P Shield. I have been considering the S&W M&P Shield 9 or Glock 43 for a while now, but have so far seen no need to spend money on a handgun that I could spend on a rifle instead. I have shot rental S&W M&P Shields in 9mm and .40 S&W.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bofh View Post
    PS: Note that I don't have the S&W M&P Shield. I have been considering the S&W M&P Shield 9 or Glock 43 for a while now, but have so far seen no need to spend money on a handgun that I could spend on a rifle instead. I have shot rental S&W M&P Shields in 9mm and .40 S&W.
    I owned a Shield for a while and ended up selling it to fund a 9C. I didn't care for the way it fit my hand and I didn't like the capacity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    I owned a Shield for a while and ended up selling it to fund a 9C. I didn't care for the way it fit my hand and I didn't like the capacity.
    I am considering the S&W M&P Shield 9 or Glock 43 for appendix carry, as a backup. I already have my Glock 19 or 20 as a 4-o'cock primary, and my Glock 26 for more complicated arrangements (crotch carry in a SmartCarry, pocket carry in a DeSantis Nemesis, or ankle carry in a Galco ankle glove). I just can't get myself to carry the Glock 26 in an appendix holster.

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    Looking for compact single stack 40 caliber pistol.

    Quote Originally Posted by bofh View Post
    The S&W M&P Shield 40 comes in multiple variants and configurations. If you want the manual safety, you want to look at the standard S&W M&P Shield 40.
    I didn't see that one. That would be the model I would be more interested in. Helluva lot cheaper too.

    Note that the manual safety is not easy to manipulate, to the point that those that do not like manual safeties do not have a problem with having one on the S&W M&P Shield. It is so difficult to manipulate that you can't accidentally engage it.
    What do you mean by not easily manipulated? Are you saying it's difficult to take the saftey on and off?

    If I was interested in a 9, I'd more than likely just go with a Ruger LC9s because I liked the trigger pull and I liked how easy it was to take it off saftey when it was "go time". I haven't shot one but testing one in a store with a ISW holster, it seemed like it came as second nature to take the saftey off immediately upon taking it out of the holster. A pistol with that similar characteristic would be what I would be looking for, hopefully in a 40.

    The Performance Center versions come with a ported barrel and a slightly better trigger.

    The ported barrel does reduce bullet speed and therefore terminal performance.
    Ported barrel? I noticed it had that when I looked at it on Smith and Wessons site but didn't look into what it was.

    If you can't handle the snap of the .40 without a ported barrel, then you might just want to get the 9mm version anyway.
    I'm a big guy with fairly large hands so, that may or may not be the case but, since whatever I go with will be used for personal conceal carry, there will be a lot more research and such before I buy one.


    The standard rear sight is slanted, meaning you won't be able to rack the slide one-handed off your belt or some other hard corner. The Tritium night rear sight is less slanted and has some edge.
    What do you mean by racking the slide one handed?

    Whatever the case may be, there won't be a reason to rack the slide because there will be a round in the chamber at all times.

    I would stay away from the fiber sights. They do break, meaning a fiber rod will come loose and you will lose it. I personally prefer XS Big Dots.
    Not interested in fiber sights. Me personally I'd rather go with them glow on the dark sights.





    I have shot rental S&W M&P Shields in 9mm and .40 S&W.[/I]
    Was there a reasonable amount of recoil difference between the two?


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    I forgot to mention this. Some people seem to have difficulties with properly seating the 7 round magazine in an M&P Shield 9. I don't as I slam the mag home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    I owned a Shield for a while and ended up selling it to fund a 9C. I didn't care for the way it fit my hand and I didn't like the capacity.
    Which one are you talking about? The SR9C? If so, I considered that one too, especially in the 40 caliber but it's a double stack. That's why I'm asking about single stacks.

    If I was gonna go with a double stack, I'd be all over the Beretta px4 storm sub compact in a 40. That's what I really want because it's pretty much the same as my full size Beretta.

    I'm looking more for comfort in an inside the waistband holster.

    I know there's a lot to be said about having enough rounds and having something that you can shoot well with but let's face it, if the gun isn't comfortable in holster that goes inside the waistband of your pants, you won't carry it. Maybe I'm worrying too much about it in anything in a sub compact or compact size but, id really rather not go through that much trial and error. I'm already out 25 bucks in shipping charges for finding out that my big beretta don't conceal carry worth a flip even in an Alien Gear 3.0 IWB Holster.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bofh View Post
    I forgot to mention this. Some people seem to have difficulties with properly seating the 7 round magazine in an M&P Shield 9. I don't as I slam the mag home.
    I would think every semi auto pistol would require a fairly firm "slap" to seat the magazine.

    If it's anything like my full size beretta with a "stock" extended magazine that took a fairly rough slap to seat the mag, that would indicate to me there is a problem that needs to be addressed. After taking the extended magazine apart and cutting off one of the coils of the spring, the magazine now seats the same as the standard magazine.


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