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  1. Quote Originally Posted by DualWings View Post
    If I wanted a firearm that I knew I could trust to fire after being in water, snow, mud or dirt I would trust the proven Colt 1911 45ACP.

    Most any modern firearm would be workable. Ruger revolvers for example can easily be disassembled and cleaned in a field environment.

    Not sure I would want to pull the side plate on one of my Smiths in the woods though!

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  3. The fingernail polish trick is an old one that still works: thanks, JJS. If you expect to be in wet or snowy conditions, it's worth taking the time to do that. Then clean the firearm and lube it after exposure to moisture to prevent future oxidation problems, etc.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by wolf_fire View Post
    So while the OP is out and about, your advice is to disarm him???? . . . You tell him, "you aren't special forces so you deserve to be defenseless"???? Wow!!

    Concerning your idiotic comment about Normandy...

    I smell troll.
    Smell all you want. There is more than one perspective on a subject. There is a difference between "disarming" and "not always carrying". There are many occasions when I don't carry, and for a variety of reasons. If I'm swimming, it's fair to say that it's difficult to imagine a situation when I'll be in a mugging, or other type of shoot out. As for wild animals; well let's just say that I don't see that happening. So all things considered, I'll choose not to carry while I'm swimming, and lock it in a car..
    Like I said . . . just because it's legal, doesn't mean that you have to.

  5. the WD in WD-40, stands for "water-displacement". Guys use it to dry out coil wires, spark plug wires, etc, when driving in water has stopped a vehicle's motor. Contrary to popular belief, it's a fine gun lube, but you have to reapply it at least every couple of weeks, as it does evaporate and run off. coat the gun well with WD, put it in a plastic bag wtih a water absorbent packet, and all you will need to do (if anything) is wipe down the exterior a bit after you get back home.

  6. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by JJSwiontek View Post
    Hi Nicholas,

    Most modern weapons are fine for complete immersion in water to continue function. I say most because some gun manufactures in the world use iron instead of higher quality steel. I would recommend cleaning and lubrication of your firearm at the end of the day before sleep.

    HOWEVER, the firearm and water are not the most important issue. Water and your ammo is. While the case seal around the bullet is waterproof, the primer is not. If your ammo is at a temperature higher than the water, then when immersed, the air pressure inside the case will go negative and draw water from around the primer into the powder. This will create a squib load and possibly a blocked barrel.

    The solution is nail polish. If you buy a inexpensive Red nail polish and paint the primers, then your rounds will be completely waterproof. Also, the thin layer of nail polish should not affect the firing pin breaking the primer crystal. Your Mileage May Vary. Try 50 painted rounds at the range and see if this works in your pistol.

    Anyone agree, disagree, or want to comment on how this advice carbon-dates me to 1973 and Southeast Asia? I have one box of 50 rounds of each type of my ammo with coated primers just for those 'wet' occasions.
    Awesome advice from a Nam vet. I would have never thought of nail polish as a sealer. I also would have thought that temp difference would cause the clearances to shrink allowing water ingression to the powder but isn't most modern ammo somewhat resistant to water up to certain depths anyway? Once again great advice.
    "Those who would trade liberty for security, deserves neither liberty nor security."
    "The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson".

  7. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by wesue4u View Post
    Smell all you want. There is more than one perspective on a subject. There is a difference between "disarming" and "not always carrying". There are many occasions when I don't carry, and for a variety of reasons. If I'm swimming, it's fair to say that it's difficult to imagine a situation when I'll be in a mugging, or other type of shoot out. As for wild animals; well let's just say that I don't see that happening. So all things considered, I'll choose not to carry while I'm swimming, and lock it in a car..
    Like I said . . . just because it's legal, doesn't mean that you have to.
    Meanwhile a thief notices your "protected by Smith & Wesson" and other pro-gun bumper and window stickers and decides to take a chance at trying to see if one is on board thereby stealing your weapon then waits nearby to follow you, rob you and rape your gf.
    "Those who would trade liberty for security, deserves neither liberty nor security."
    "The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson".

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    Quote Originally Posted by longslide10 View Post
    Meanwhile a thief notices your "protected by Smith & Wesson" and other pro-gun bumper and window stickers and decides to take a chance at trying to see if one is on board thereby stealing your weapon then waits nearby to follow you, rob you and rape your gf.
    Taking it pretty extreme to get your point across? Not fitting for you longslide.
    “One of the illusions of life is that the present hour is not the critical, decisive one.” – Ralph Waldo Emerson

  9. [QUOTE=wesue4u;441205]Judgment is the better part of valor.
    The last beach front shoot out I recall was Normandy 1945
    Just because you can, doesn't mean you must or should
    Unless you are a Navy Seal or Army Ranger, lock it in the car.[/QUOTE

    Terrible advice

  10. I was wondering with the lube part, I've always used normal gun oil but was thinking of for the situation going for a sort of gun grease since that is a little less water soluble. Are there any suggestions on that?

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    Normal gun oil

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicholas A. View Post
    I was wondering with the lube part, I've always used normal gun oil but was thinking of for the situation going for a sort of gun grease since that is a little less water soluble. Are there any suggestions on that?
    Most gun oils are not water soluble and they should be fine even for hours in the water.
    As for a grease, if you really want to go for the extra, extra protection, you need to consider the attraction and holding of dirt and what will break-down the grease for a good cleaning. I seem to remember my dad packing away a gun for long-term storage and he used petroleum jelly to coat all metal parts. Not sure what it will do to any special finishes to a weapon. In a pinch I have used Lithium grease (usually used in bicycle lubrication) for a good gun grease.
    Whatever you decide to try, pick an inside part of your weapon to test for any reaction between the grease and the metal. Yeah, I'm just over-protective of my tools. :) And then test for full function at the range. If the grease causes any change in proper function (failure to feed, etc.), then go back to just using the gun oil.

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