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  1. CCW Person-How Ready Are You To Take Action

    As a Concealed Carry person how trained are you to action, can you take that shot, can you draw your weapon fluidly with precision. Have you taken any training classes in tactics or in combat/protection situations.

    Since were talking about Conceal Carry, having access for immediate draw is limited because our weapon is under our shirt/sweater or coat. If you sense a dangerous situation that's one thing, but what if a situation occurs spontaneously... if someone pulls a weapon, a robbery occurs while your in a store, or anything that may happen without warning.

    Its one thing when a situation escalates and you have time get ready or get prepare to some degree, but when something happens on a moment notice how would you react.

    If your in a calm/norm area, and someone banishes a weapon without the immediate treat to shoot, how would you react, or, what if that aggressor shoots at someone, what would you do.

    Do you have more training other than target practice at the gun shop/range, how much training do you feel a person needs. Protecting your home is one thing, but taking action in public is another.

    If some pulls a weapon or shoots (not at you) within a 20 yard radius of you, what would you do, how would you react. (your by yourself)

    No one wants to brow beat anyone or insult anyone by their actions, you may read about some good tactics/ideas, and maybe some stuff to think about.

    Scenarios/training/tactics are fun to discuss.

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  3. As a a former LEO, I'm ready.

  4. Arrow retreat should be first in the thoughts of any CCL

    A Reply to the questions:

    If your in a calm/norm area, and someone banishes a weapon without the immediate treat to shoot, how would you react, or, what if that aggressor shoots at someone, what would you do.
    *It is not my job. I would take cover until my life or family member is in danger.

    Do you have more training other than target practice at the gun shop/range, how much training do you feel a person needs. Protecting your home is one thing, but taking action in public is another.
    *I have no additional training other than routine practice. In public it is not my job. I would take cover until my life or family member is in danger.

    If some pulls a weapon or shoots (not at you) within a 20 yard radius of you, what would you do, how would you react. (your by yourself)
    *20 yards is a long way away, it is not my job. I would take cover until my life or family member is in danger.

    Opinion:
    Reaction should not be to shoot. Instead retreat should be first in the thoughts of any CCL person. The liability that comes with pulling the trigger demands it. You had better be able to put into words why you chose to stop a person with deadly force and be assured, it will be a costly decision either way. $$$$$

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    Quote Originally Posted by dps782 View Post
    A Reply to the questions:

    If your in a calm/norm area, and someone banishes a weapon without the immediate treat to shoot, how would you react, or, what if that aggressor shoots at someone, what would you do.
    *It is not my job. I would take cover until my life or family member is in danger.

    Do you have more training other than target practice at the gun shop/range, how much training do you feel a person needs. Protecting your home is one thing, but taking action in public is another.
    *I have no additional training other than routine practice. In public it is not my job. I would take cover until my life or family member is in danger.

    If some pulls a weapon or shoots (not at you) within a 20 yard radius of you, what would you do, how would you react. (your by yourself)
    *20 yards is a long way away, it is not my job. I would take cover until my life or family member is in danger.

    Opinion:
    Reaction should not be to shoot. Instead retreat should be first in the thoughts of any CCL person. The liability that comes with pulling the trigger demands it. You had better be able to put into words why you chose to stop a person with deadly force and be assured, it will be a costly decision either way. $$$$$
    I agree with all the above...plus the fact that if you keep a low profile you can actually be a good witness to the situation. Worst comes to worst if the attacker notices you, this is when you are suppose to act, NOT before.
    "Don't let the door hit ya where the dawg shudda bit ya!"
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  6. A priority tactical move (when possible) besides drawing your weapon and shooting... is Move... Cover... Cover... Move.

    We don't want to become a stationary target, moving/creating distance from the threat will increase your odds of not being shot, standing fast trying to get your conceal weapon out from under your clothing many get you killed.

    The hip shot that Police train is vital, they may encounter a shooter/threat up close and spontaneously, taking that shot from the hip may save a life. Even for CCW people its a sound tactical move, drawing your weapon (under Clothing), bring it up to eye level while cupping both hands together for a flash sight picture is not a good tactical move close up. The hip shot and point shooting will save your life as you retreat/cover/creating distance from the shooter.

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    Yes, I am prepared. But of more importance is I am also prepared to NOT draw and fire.

    I say that because I see so many CCW, especially new CCW, who I somehow feel see carrying and the prospect of shooting someone some sort of romantic notion akin to being James Bond.

    Here is the deal. Many states, including here in Florida no longer have a duty to retreat by law, so that means you must instill a logical desire to retreat by training. If you HAVE a choice between drawing and firing, and running like three year old girl ... my answer is RUN! Of course, if you do not have the choice, then draw and fire as you have also trained.

    Your most powerful weapon is between your ears, put it to use first and if the need to use a firearm comes up you will be prepared.

  8. Shooting it out like James Bond is manly, but that's TV, the best choice is taking that avenue of escape and calling 911. Don't misunderstand me... if you HAVE TO shoot... then you shoot.

  9. Ever hear the cliche, "When you're holding a hammer, every problem looks like a nail"?

    Just because you have a gun doesn't mean that you go around shooting. That is the WRONG mindset for someone carrying concealed. A firearm is the LAST resort. Avoid if you can, run if you must and shoot only when it comes down to either you and yours or him and do NOT miss.

    I ain't a cop, I DO NOT CARE if you rob the local Jiffy Mart. I'm not going to stop you because I ain't a Jiffy Mart security guard either. BUT, if you go waving your gun at me and mine or start shooting, then it's on. Otherwise, I'm gonna stand there (lay there, hide there-whatever) and just be a good witness.

  10. #9
    We've run this "convenience store robbery" scenario before. My take is that if some dirtbag is pointing a gun at a clerk and threatening to shoot during a holdup, I will react, if at all possible. Move, cover, LOS all come into play. I will not stand there and watch some young coed trying to work her way thru school get her face blown off.

    I've had considerable professional training in defensive/tactical handgun and don't think I could live with myself if I covered my ass only to let someone else die. What the hell are sheepdogs for, anyway?

    Just me, of course. Everyone gets to make their own decision.

    Training is EVERYTHING.

  11. JJ,
    The sheepdogs are the cops. It's their job to protect the flock. I'm not a sheepdog, I'm a ram. Rams are sheep that have horns and are not afraid to use them.

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