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    Quote Originally Posted by Genasi View Post
    "Properly trained on semi-auto handguns" = special class. You just proved my point, you just said you need special training on semi-autos in order to keep the slide from comming out of battery in a fight. Thanks :)

    One does not need any such class with revolvers. Simple to opperate, lower maintenence, fewer things to go wrong.

    Capacity is a false sense of security since your auto will probably jam on the 1st shot while my revolver will fire every time.
    Wow, what high level of ignorance. Properly trained means exactly what it says, properly trained, as opposed to improperly trained. If you see proper training as some kind of special training class then you have a real problem.

    I assume that you belong to those that go to a gun shop, buy a firearm, and then call themselves shooters with zero-to-none training. The "self-taught" class of gun owners who really know nothing, but spout nonsense on Internet forums about guns. Good luck with that.

    I have 15,000 rounds through my Glock 19 with one user-induced malfunction during a training class. That single malfunction was due to a wrong, "self-taught" gun handling technique. Thanks to that training class, I don't do that anymore. Tell me again how my Glock 19 jams on the first round, because it hasn't done that yet after firing 1,000 fully loaded magazines through it.

    Capacity is no sense of security. It's a backup plan. Your backup plan is what exactly? Do you carry two revolvers (NY reload)? Do you carry speed loaders or speed strips? Or does involve your backup plan praying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genasi View Post
    The question was of clearing malfunctions, not basic handeling. Please stay on point.
    I understand that basic gun handling does not include clearing malfunctions for you, because if you experience a malfunction with your revolver, you are screwed. There is no basic gun handling technique that can help you out.

    For semi-autos, basic gun handling does include clearing malfunctions, because it can be done during a gunfight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bofh View Post
    Wow, what high level of ignorance. Properly trained means exactly what it says, properly trained, as opposed to improperly trained. If you see proper training as some kind of special training class then you have a real problem.

    I assume that you belong to those that go to a gun shop, buy a firearm, and then call themselves shooters with zero-to-none training. The "self-taught" class of gun owners who really know nothing, but spout nonsense on Internet forums about guns. Good luck with that.

    I have 15,000 rounds through my Glock 19 with one user-induced malfunction during a training class. That single malfunction was due to a wrong, "self-taught" gun handling technique. Thanks to that training class, I don't do that anymore. Tell me again how my Glock 19 jams on the first round, because it hasn't done that yet after firing 1,000 fully loaded magazines through it.

    Capacity is no sense of security. It's a backup plan. Your backup plan is what exactly? Do you carry two revolvers (NY reload)? Do you carry speed loaders or speed strips? Or does involve your backup plan praying?
    It involves the rifle in my car :)

    If you need more than a few rounds, then you need a rifle.

    Your fantacy of sticking out a prolonged gun fight with your pea-shooter Glock will get you killed. Get off the X. Get out of there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bofh View Post
    I understand that basic gun handling does not include clearing malfunctions for you, because if you experience a malfunction with your revolver, you are screwed. There is no basic gun handling technique that can help you out.

    For semi-autos, basic gun handling does include clearing malfunctions, because it can be done during a gunfight.
    Revolvers don't jam in the first place.

    ...unles you were negligent. But that's on you, not the gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genasi View Post
    Revolvers don't jam in the first place.

    ...unles you were negligent. But that's on you, not the gun.
    Good luck with that approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genasi View Post
    It involves the rifle in my car :)

    If you need more than a few rounds, then you need a rifle.

    Your fantacy of sticking out a prolonged gun fight with your pea-shooter Glock will get you killed. Get off the X. Get out of there.
    Great, one of those guys that lives in the fantasy that one can quickly run to the car and grab a rifle. It has zero foundation in reality, though.

    You carry a revolver and no backup gun, but you have rifle in the car. This makes zero sense, unless your plan evolves around being lazy and not wanting to carry around so much.

    I guess you will be one of those that show up in full battle rattle when the shooting is over.

    As for "Get off the X. Get out of there." That may require shooting your way out, like in the Westgate shopping mall attack. At least you have 5 or 6 rounds and one throw with a blunt object at your disposal.

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    Take special care with hangfire from a revolver. Do NOT cycle the cylinder; be sure to eject the round after a misfire. A hangfire that occurs in a revolver cylinder, without the cylinder chamber being in battery behind the barrel, will likely do fatal damage to the pistol. Therefore, if a misfire occurs when shooting a revolver, allow some time so a hangfire can safely discharge. If a misfire occurs, remove the round from the pistol if not all ammunition entirely.. Continue reading at: The Complete Guide to Gun Safety - Alien Gear Holsters Blog

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    Quote Originally Posted by bofh View Post
    Great, one of those guys that lives in the fantasy that one can quickly run to the car and grab a rifle. It has zero foundation in reality, though.

    You carry a revolver and no backup gun, but you have rifle in the car. This makes zero sense, unless your plan evolves around being lazy and not wanting to carry around so much.

    I guess you will be one of those that show up in full battle rattle when the shooting is over.

    As for "Get off the X. Get out of there." That may require shooting your way out, like in the Westgate shopping mall attack. At least you have 5 or 6 rounds and one throw with a blunt object at your disposal.
    y so mad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genasi View Post
    y so mad?
    No, I am entertained by your drivel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bofh View Post
    No, I am entertained by your drivel.
    wow so mad

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