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  1. #1
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    Front Sight

    So Front Sight is offering their 2 day defensive handgun course for $100 till April 20th. I am gonna take them up on this offer. Just wonderin how many of you have been there and what I can expect from them.

    In case anyone else is interested here is the email I got:


    April 4, 2009

    Dr. Ignatius Piazza
    Founder and Director
    Front Sight Firearms Training Institute
    P.O. Box 2619
    Aptos, CA 95001
    Front Sight Firearms Training Institute
    [email protected]
    1.800.987.7719

    This is Hard to Believe, But it is True...

    (We are Getting LOTS of People Asking if This is for
    Real. The answer is YES, it is for Real.)

    If you Can Follow Easy Directions YOU Can Secure
    A Front Sight Course for Only $100.

    Dear Andrew,

    Every day I receive numerous pleas from people to provide a
    more affordable opportunity to attend a Front Sight course.

    College students, retired people on fixed incomes, disabled
    veterans, single moms, and people with every other
    imaginable situation have e-mailed or written me asking for
    a more affordable opportunity to attend a course with Front
    Sight.

    Well, if you can follow some very simple directions as
    outlined below, you can secure a certificate to attend a
    Two Day Defensive Handgun Course for ONLY $100 and use the
    certificate at ANY time in the future.

    This is the same Two Day Defensive Handgun Course that
    normally costs $1,000, but I will make it available to you
    through this very limited, Special Course Certificate Offer
    for only $100.

    That's right! Only $100 but you must follow the very
    simple directions to the letter.

    Here is how it works:

    1. The Certificate is good for you to attend Front Sight's
    Two Day Defensive Handgun Course at any time in the future
    and has No Expiration Date.

    2. The Certificate is good for a student's first course
    only. Certificate is transferable, but not redeemable for
    cash.

    3. Simply mail a personal check or money order in the
    amount of $100 made payable to Front Sight along with a
    Self Addressed, Stamped Return Envelope. Mail your check
    to:

    P.O. Box 2619
    Aptos, CA 95001

    4. The deadline for postmark of your envelope is April, 20
    2009. This means you must drop the check in the mail to us
    before 5:00pm April 20, 2009.

    5. Upon receipt, we will mail you back, in the Self
    Addressed Stamped Envelope you provide, a special Front
    Sight Course Certificate good to attend a Two Day Defensive
    Handgun Course at any time in the future with no expiration
    date. If you decide at any time in the future you
    cannot use it, the Certificate is fully transferable.

    Again, it's very simple. Just follow the directions above.

    Take advantage of the offer to get a $1,000 Two Day
    Defensive Handgun Course that you can attend at any time in
    the future for ONLY $100.

    Why am I doing this? As I said above, I receive requests
    every day from people looking for a more affordable way to
    get Front Sight's world class training. I woke up this
    morning and decided to provide you this offer. I'll sleep
    better knowing I am doing what I can to help.

    In order to be able to offer a $1,000 course for only $100
    you have to help me by following the directions above to
    the letter and complying with the rules below so we are not
    inundated with unnecessary calls and e-mails.

    Please understand that I cannot give our courses away to
    help people and then also have to spend thousands of
    dollars in time and logistics answering phone and e-mail
    questions that are already answered below.
    "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."--Thomas Jefferson

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  3. would be great if there was anything close to me.

  4. #3
    You will have an awesome time. I train there quite often.

    There is a better way to take your first class though. There are people selling certificates for 4 day courses for about $150 on ebay. You'll still have to pay $50 for a background check, but that fee also applies to the 2 day certificate they are currently offering.

    The 2 day class is great, especially for a beginner. The 4 day class is a lot better. It adds night shooting, a fun steel shooting 1 on 1 competition, turning targets and use of concealment garments. You will shoot more ammo per day on days 3 and 4 than you will shoot on days 1 and 2 combined. This is mostly due to the number of new shooters. They have to start with the absolute basics (safety, dry practice, drawing from the holster), so it'll be close to lunch time on day 1 before you fire any real ammo.

    Either way, have a great trip.
    "When the outflow exceeds the inflow, the upkeep becomes the downfall"

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrellM5 View Post
    You will have an awesome time. I train there quite often.

    There is a better way to take your first class though. There are people selling certificates for 4 day courses for about $150 on ebay. You'll still have to pay $50 for a background check, but that fee also applies to the 2 day certificate they are currently offering.

    The 2 day class is great, especially for a beginner. The 4 day class is a lot better. It adds night shooting, a fun steel shooting 1 on 1 competition, turning targets and use of concealment garments. You will shoot more ammo per day on days 3 and 4 than you will shoot on days 1 and 2 combined. This is mostly due to the number of new shooters. They have to start with the absolute basics (safety, dry practice, drawing from the holster), so it'll be close to lunch time on day 1 before you fire any real ammo.

    Either way, have a great trip.
    Thanks for the info, I'll check ebay.
    "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."--Thomas Jefferson

  6. Watch Out

    Check out Front Sight Litigation
    If you pay $1199 upfront, they promise to give you all sorts of things, but it appears that they are trying to declare bankruptcy so they don't have to give back all the upfront money they scammed.
    -Jason

  7. #6
    The "litigation stuff" has been going on for a couple of years now and doesn't seem to be affecting anything. I just figured that I'd get in plenty of training to justify my membership price in case it doesn't last forever. I joined up on Memorial Day weekend of 2007 and have spent a total of 28 days training there with more scheduled. They've been hiring and training quite a few new instructors to ensure they can keep up with the number of people training. One weekend, a couple of weeks after the elections, they had a little over 500 students.

    The $1200 dollar "free gun" offer is really good. I wish they had that when I first joined. It's like you bought the stuff and got the $2000 class for free.
    "When the outflow exceeds the inflow, the upkeep becomes the downfall"

  8. That's funny. The frontsight litigation website doesn't exist any longer. What's up with that? Why did Front Sight take it down?

    Glad to hear you got some training there Darrell. Daily they have been emailing me marketing material trying to get me to join, become a life member, etc. I have no problem with slick marketing material. I just want to know the company is legit, is solvent, and doesn't have pending law suits.

    I received an email from them saying they are accepting applications for instructor positions, with no experience necessary. Do I really want to have a coach helping me who has less time on the range than I have? It's those kinds of things that are making me think twice about taking a class there.

    Call me paranoid or pessamistic if you want. It took hard work to earm my money and I've become cautious with how I give it to. Show me FS is worthy of my money, and they are on the up and up, and I'll gladly purchase a life membership. So far, it's not looking good unfortunately.

  9. #8
    I have taken their Instructor Development (ID) program and can assure you that you will be getting the most intense, accurate, and professional training available. True, they allow someone with no training to try out, but those get cut the first day. We started with 40 candidates and finished with 14.

    There are other programs out there and I am sure they are very good. Get on the 4 day Defensive Handgun class, you will come away in sheer awe of what you have learned and how much you didn't know before taking the training. They have to be doing something right to be training 800 people in 4 days, every week, every month. I guarantee you will get the most professional training available by going to Front Sight.

    NO, I do NOT work for them. I went through their program and for personal reasons, made the decision to not work there at this time. Their offer is still open.
    JEFF
    Some spend a lifetime wondering if they made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem.
    This finger was not made to push 1 for english!

  10. #9
    I have several friends who have attended Front Sight, one of which took advantage of the free Springfield XD and associated gear for $1199. He got his gun and 5 days of training - the 4-day defensive handgun course, and the CCW course. Neither of them have had any complaints and have told me that I'm crazy for not signing up.

    I would, except I don't have $1199 and I won't fly (I live in Florida and the school is in Nevada).
    -= Piece Corps =-

  11. #10
    Lifetime member and an ardent supporter of Front Sight. Great training, fantastic time. Took my wife with me for 4-day course, she had never fired a weapon of any kind. At the end of the course, she was drawing her 9 mm from a concealed postion, and planting 2 in the thoracic cavity in 1.5 seconds at 7 m. Just like they advertised.
    Prov. 27:3 - "Stone is heavy and sand a burden, but provocation by a fool is heavier than both"

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