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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by usmc guy View Post

    Sign up for the 4 day pistol course first, it's the basic training that will get you up to speed on your firearm to include carry concealed.

    You will shoot about 1000 rounds of ammo over the 4 days so make sure you take enough factory ammo with you.

    The days are long and include one night shoot with flashlight, so make sure you have a good tactical flash light with a fresh battery.

    Yep. This is what I'd suggest, also. Take some granola bars (they'll have water and gatorade) to snack on, a jacket or whatever for concealment purposes and bring a great attitude. You're in for a good time!

  3. Thanks for the good advice!

    Thanks USMC guy and JJFlash for the great advice. If you think of anything else let me know. I am planning on signing up for the 4 day class first and then the CCW to add to my permit.
    Last edited by saintjerome; 12-29-2009 at 03:59 PM. Reason: add more

  4. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by saintjerome View Post
    Thanks USMC guy and JJFlash for the great advice. If you think of anything else let me know. I am planning on signing up for the 4 day class first and then the CCW to add to my permit.
    Yeah, I just thought...take some spare mags, if you got 'em (you should have at least 3 mags), you're pretty much gonna be hustling to reload in between shoots. Last time I went (several weeks ago) I took a spare weapon, just in case. Didn't need it and you can rent there if your firearm becomes disabled, but a suggestion.

    Also, you can buy ammo there, if need be. I didn't think there was much price difference between there and here at home. I bought all mine there, this last trip.

  5. JJFlash, I have at least 4 Glock mags. Should I take them all? I also just bought a more suped up speedloader. I was reading how sore everyone's thumbs were getting. Good ideas?

  6. #65

    And then..

    Must be getting old and also:

    Make sure you can load mags without the mag loading devices (use your hands and sore thumbs) saw several students that had a real problem on the night shoot as they did not either have enough spare loaded mags and they could not operate the mag loader tools in the dark - also it takes too long that way. Every break you have off the firing line top off your mags from loose rounds in your cargo pocket and you will always be in good shape, I did the class with just three mags but you had to work harder to keep your gun running.

    As for ammo prices in the pro shop - if you are a Diamond Family Member it is true that ammo is reasonable $20.00 per box for 45 acp last week. If you are not a Diamond Member the same box of ammo of $34.00. If you are driving to Front Sight ammo should be no issue, if you have to fly in from Hawaii like I do then find a place to drop ship your ammo a week before your class - all the on line ammo guys will do that for ya.

    Make sure you have a good Kydex holster such as Blade tech similar as you will be doing thousands for presentations and re-holstering during your course (no kidding). I had the junk XD holster than came in my gun kit and it sucked. I'd stay away from the Blackhawk holsters with push button retention as it slows you down and I've heard from another training site that they just stopped allowing their use due to some common safety issues that they found out about during classes with new students. Also make sure you have a good "shooting belt" that will hold all your junk in position for four days.

    If you don't like to haul your food everyday the Cafe that supplies box lunches to Front Sight is very nice, but may seem pricy at $12.00 - you can order on line for the whole 4 day course and they are in the main building with you lunch and drinks each day - was really a big time saver when you are doing 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. each day .

    Gun cleaning kit is nice as they do not allow any gun cleaning on the site, you will need to clean your gun at the hotel and they get really dirty over the course - make sure the rails on your auto loader has some type of gun lube as I heard this was one of the main issues with FTF in these courses according to Justin who teaches the Master Prep Course.

    Don't come home and brag to your wife or significant other about how long the days were, how early you had to get up each day, how hot/cold it was, the portopotties, and how sore you were - one of my class mates did that after the 4 day and his wife now has zero interest in attending any training courses.

  7. #66
    USMC Guy is on the money:

    I took my wife to the 4-day class (she had never fired a weapon of any sort in her life), kinda as a surprise. She's a great sport; noted that the 1st day or 2 was pretty long and nerve-wracking, but after that, she had a blast. But, yeah, if you want your wife to ever go, just tell her what a great time you had (and you will!)

    Load using your thumb (does get a little raw, but nothing unmanageable, I loaded 1 or 2 less than a full mag each time because of stiff springs); you're gonna end up having several mags running, and keeping a fistful of bullets in your pocket so you're not running back to the table everytime you need to load up a mag.

    Don't use a button-release holster. I showed up with my Mernickle slide holster and was told it couldn't be used. They convinced me that while it as OK for CC, not a good tactical holster. So, no Blade Techs were available for the XD, and I ended up buying an ITAC with the frickin' button release. As I was not used to it, it really slowed my reaction times; I ended up wedging a small piece of cardboard under the release, effectively negating it, which worked all right. So, make sure you take a good tactical holster with you as you don't know what might be in stock.

    The $12.00 food box seems expensive, but they put enough food in there to last me all afternoon and into the evening ride back to Vegas, so I thought it was cost-effective enough.

  8. Thanks again guys! That is some awesome advice! I just sent away yesterday for the kel tech 9 mm pistol from Front Sight. I'll look around at the next gun show in our area for the needed equipment. I have a couple of holsters for my glock 27 but they probably aren't going to be the best for this training. If you think of any other equipment that is needed let me know. I am going to look for all the suggested brands before I go but I will try to save a couple of bucks if possible. The days sound exhausting!

  9. I just upgraded to a Diamond membership and now have an extra pocket pistol lifetime membership to sell. It entitles you to lifetime entry into the 2 or 4 day defensive class and the CCW class.

  10. Hi Guys and Gals,

    Just joined today so 'new guy' here at usacarry. This is my first post so I'll try to make it thoughtful.

    I've enjoyed reading this entire thread on FS. Some of you apparently attended FS back in 2007 and others more recently. It's nice to read about your experiences there. Have any of you attended a class this year in 2010?

    If you've attended in 2010, I'd like to know if the FS facilities have progressed since 2007, e.g. running water to the property, toilet buildings, RV hookups on site, refrigerators, etc.

    Also, did you notice any visible sign of new construction happening on the property, e.g. Gunsmith shop, indoor ranges, simulators, hotel, air strip, housing, etc. like they described in their promotional DVD?

    Some people have told me to stay away from FS, others like you say the training is good. I'd really like to hear from anyone who has attended FS in the last few months for an update please. A week long training is a big commitment financially and chronologically so I want to make the best choices for my time and money.

    I also noticed that there are FS banners on this site. Doesn't that have some influence on the moderator's and admin's support for FS? Seems like it could have some influence because you may not want to lose an advertiser by posting a truthful yet unflattering comment about them. What I mean to say is, I hope the mods and admins will post honest truthful observations and opinions about FS regardless of their advertising status.

    My emotions tell me to spend the money and take their class, and maybe even spend 5K to become a member. The intellect tells me to slow down, do more investigations, trust but verify, and ask former students for their opinions.

    So that's what I'm doing. I hope I didn't offend anyone. Thanks for letting me post!

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  11. #70

    2010 Front Site

    Yep, I was just their for the Masters Class in Dec, at that time the range I was on was as usual porta potties with water for hand washing. Didn't notice much of anything else, but I was here to train not inspect. I don't think you will find any better training anywhere at least on handguns (which is all I train on). If you are here for the resort stuff (air strip, hotel,) and such that conversation has been going on for several years - I would just concentrate on the training. The ranges and staff are first rate just like the training. I just upgraded to Diamond membership this year.

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