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  1. #11
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    Thanks for the info. Illinois makes it pretty clear and surprisingly easy. As long as you are allowed to carry in your state legally, you can have it in your vehicle while you are in it. Much obliged Kwc.

    Sorry for requesting the information in writing. I just don't trust police with actually knowing the law. I've been in states where the local LEO didn't not know reciprocity (I now carry all reciprocity agreements in a binder with me), nor can one expect a LEO to know all the laws pertaining to firearms for each and every state.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote."
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    Go to the Illinois State Police Website, there they discuss transporting a firearm through Illinois. It is not as strict as most non-Illinois people think. You dont have to worry about crossing the state line and immediately getting pulled over for a search. Stay within 5 of the speed limit and wear your seatbelt, You shouldnt have a problem.

  4. #13
    You may NOT carry in Illinois, probably until next year UNLESS you have a carry permit from another state AND are a resident of said state. It sucks Illinois trusts out of state residents more than local residents. Hmmmmm

    Leave it unloaded and locked. Here is a PDF from the Illinois State Police: http://www.isp.state.il.us/docs/1-154.pdf

    LOL stay out of Chicago and you probably won't need it.
    -Thomas
    Member, ISRA; NRA Life Member & Instructor; AGI Certified Gunsmith, Illinois Concealed Carry Instructor www.alphakoncepts.com www.gunrights4illinois.com @AlphaKoncepts

  5. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by chicagogunsmith View Post
    You may NOT carry in Illinois, probably until next year UNLESS you have a carry permit from another state AND are a resident of said state. It sucks Illinois trusts out of state residents more than local residents. Hmmmmm

    Leave it unloaded and locked. Here is a PDF from the Illinois State Police: http://www.isp.state.il.us/docs/1-154.pdf

    LOL stay out of Chicago and you probably won't need it.
    You just posted a link to the old law... see post #6.

    http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/publ...F/098-0063.pdf

    Section 40. Non-resident license applications. ... ...
    (e) Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a non-resident from
    transporting a concealed firearm within his or her vehicle in
    Illinois, if the concealed firearm remains within his or her
    vehicle and the non-resident:
    (1) is not prohibited from owning or possessing a
    firearm under federal law;
    (2) is eligible to carry a firearm in public under the
    laws of his or her state or territory of residence; and
    (3) is not in possession of a license under this Act.
    If the non-resident leaves his or her vehicle unattended,
    he or she shall store the firearm within a locked vehicle or
    locked container within the vehicle in accordance with
    subsection (b) of Section 65 of this Act.
    The news media plays politics more than the politicians do.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by kwc View Post
    Wolf_fire,

    Read section 40(e) in the signed legislation here:

    http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/publ...F/098-0063.pdf

    You may also want to call the Firearms Services Bureau if you need further clarification.

    Regards,
    Kwc
    Hate to rain all over everybody's parade but "LOADED" is not mentioned - (quoting section 40 (e)) "Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a non-resident from
    transporting a concealed firearm within his or her vehicle in Illinois, if the concealed firearm remains within his or her vehicle and the non-resident:" . . . has a permit from his/her state of residence.

    Looks like those without an IL permit still need to comply with FOPA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anvil6 View Post
    Hate to rain all over everybody's parade but "LOADED" is not mentioned - (quoting section 40 (e)) "Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a non-resident from
    transporting a concealed firearm within his or her vehicle in Illinois, if the concealed firearm remains within his or her vehicle and the non-resident:" . . . has a permit from his/her state of residence.

    Looks like those without an IL permit still need to comply with FOPA.
    anvil6, did you happen to check the definition of "concealed firearm"?

    Quoting from Section 5:

    '"Concealed firearm" means a loaded or unloaded handgun carried on or about a person completely or mostly concealed from view of the public or on or about a person within a vehicle.'

    It's not raining. :)

    - kwc

  8. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by anvil6 View Post
    Hate to rain all over everybody's parade but "LOADED" is not mentioned - (quoting section 40 (e)) "Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a non-resident from
    transporting a concealed firearm within his or her vehicle in Illinois, if the concealed firearm remains within his or her vehicle and the non-resident:" . . . has a permit from his/her state of residence.

    Looks like those without an IL permit still need to comply with FOPA.
    While you may be correct, I was born and raised in IL. I still have a lot of family there and get all the latest news. There has been some County Sheriffs who have said they will NOT arrest anyone with a gun in their car. BUT the IL State police say they will arrest anyone with a gun. So when I travel through or in IL I ALWAYS unload and lock my gun up separate from the ammo. So IMHO if anyone wants to have a loaded gun in their car or truck while diving through IL you do at your own peril. Remember it was in IL where obummer learned how to interpret the law. And we see how well he is doing that!!!!!!

  9. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by vernsimpson View Post
    While you may be correct, I was born and raised in IL. I still have a lot of family there and get all the latest news. There has been some County Sheriffs who have said they will NOT arrest anyone with a gun in their car. BUT the IL State police say they will arrest anyone with a gun. So when I travel through or in IL I ALWAYS unload and lock my gun up separate from the ammo. So IMHO if anyone wants to have a loaded gun in their car or truck while diving through IL you do at your own peril. Remember it was in IL where obummer learned how to interpret the law. And we see how well he is doing that!!!!!!
    State Police have basically said they will enforce the law... not that they would "arrest anyone with a gun."

    Without a CCW process fully in place, counties that state they will not arrest or prosecute those who conceal carry in public (without the required IL license!) are being inconsistent with state law. The State Police's assertion to arrest was made in that context--they intend to continue enforcing the law of the land.

    I think there is little risk adhering to a clear provision of the law, such as the permitted/licensed non-resident vehicle concealed carry provision, especially when the State Police's own Firearms Services Bureau confirms this provision is fully in-place.

    If you are worried LE is incapable, or unwilling to, correctly interpret the law with respect to firearm possession and carry, then I'd recommend never bringing a firearm into Illinois, period, even once the licensing process is in full swing. That's your call and your right.

    But to each his own... I wouldn't criticize anyone who plays it "extra safe" until we have some history and case law behind us.

  10. #19
    Thanks KC for understanding my position. But I read in my my small home town paper that the IL State LE would arrest anyone carrying or had a firearm in their car or truck. Now I will admit that my small town "blab" is nothing but a gossip rag, but that is what it said. The State LEOs will do what the Governor and Attorney General want. The Gov and AG did not want the CC law and will do what ever they can to stop or at least slow it down. I know IL politics and they cherry pick and read into the law what ever they want.

    I agree with you that it would be wise to be very careful until there is some history and case law on the books. It will be interesting to see what the requirements will be to apply for a CCL. The bar may be set so high that the IL State LEOs would have trouble achieving it. IMHO

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    Just passing through

    If you have stay overnight, do you have to leave your weapon in your car or can you take it in the motel?

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