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    Illinois will issue to nonresidents, but only of certain states

    My daughter lives in Chicago, so naturally I planned to apply for an IL nonresident permit.

    However:

    "The Department shall by rule allow for non-resident license applications from any state or territory of the United States with laws related to firearm ownership, possession, and carrying, that are substantially similar to the requirements to obtain a license under this Act."

    Further: "IL will put out a list of states that have laws similar to theirs that they will issue Non-Resident Permits to."

    Does anyone know what requirements Illinois requires be "substantially similar"? Is this stipulation a back-door scheme to avoid issuing to nonresidents? Or does it simply mean that if you had to take a class to get your home state permit, Illinois might honor that training?

    Anybody have any details on this?

    Thanks.

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    If you get a Non Resident CCW in Ill you can use your ccw in the following states.
    But I am not sure what the criteria is.
    Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont
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    I don't think they have posted it yet. You can bet that if your state does not have any type of training requirement it will not be on the list.
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  5. Forget about receprocity, that has not been determined. The law passed will allow for a non-resident to obtain a permit. It will cost you $300 for the application and 16 hours of training by a certified IL instructor. You can get 8 hours of credit for being in the military or taking the NRA basic pistol class. Here is the section of the law. Section 60. Fees.

    (a) All fees collected under this Act shall be deposited as

    provided in this Section. Application, renewal, and

    replacement fees shall be non-refundable.

    (b) An applicant for a new license or a renewal shall

    submit $150 with the application, of which $120 shall be

    apportioned to the State Police Firearm Services Fund, $20

    shall be apportioned to the Mental Health Reporting Fund, and

    $10 shall be apportioned to the State Crime Laboratory Fund.

    (c) A non-resident applicant for a new license or renewal

    shall submit $300 with the application, of which $250 shall be

    apportioned to the State Police Firearm Services Fund, $40

    shall be apportioned to the Mental Health Reporting Fund, and

    $10 shall be apportioned to the State Crime Laboratory Fund.

    Also, if you want to get the training, go to these guys, TSI - Home I have taken three classes from them and it is operated by a cook county sheriff and his cohorts. All solid guys and gals.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by BamaBoy View Post
    "The Department shall by rule allow for non-resident license applications from any state ... with laws related to firearm ownership, possession, and carrying, that are substantially similar to the requirements to obtain a license under this Act."
    What does ". . . applications from any state . . . with laws . . . similar to . . . " The most liberal interpretation is that I can drive to any such state and drop the application in the mailbox. The application is "from" the state from which it is mailed. Somehow, I can't imagine this interpretation will prevail.
    So, suppose I am a resident of a state with laws not similar to those of Illinois; yet, I have a non-resident permit from a state that DOES have laws that ARE similar to those of Illinois, and, are recognized as such. Is my application "from" my state of residence? Or, from the state that is recognized that issued my non-resident permit?
    Anyone have any insights?
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    Quote Originally Posted by arnetste View Post
    If you get a Non Resident CCW in Ill you can use your ccw in the following states.
    But I am not sure what the criteria is.
    Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont
    Vermont has a permit?
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    Short answer is we don't know what that means. We won't know for sure what that means until the ISP starts approving out of state applicants. My understanding is it mainly has to do with mental health reporting.

    My personal opinion is the laws of your state shouldn't matter so long as you know and follow the laws of the state of Illinois.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BC1 View Post
    Vermont has a permit?
    I don't think Vermont has a permit, I think what arnetste was saying is that if you get a non resident Illinois permit, Vermont in addition to the other state he listed, will acknowledge the IL out of state permit as a legal permit. I am not confirming nor denying what he is saying other than that is my interpretation of what he said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BC1 View Post
    Vermont has a permit?
    Wellll, sort of. We have what is called constitutional carry.. You can carry OC or CC long or short. It ts well respected, but there is no paperwork to say that you can. That is a big stumbling block for those who would like reciprocity. All permits are honored in VT, but nobody that I'm aware of allows me to carry in their state.


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    That's an interesting question. NC honors all permits, but I don't know if they accept Vt's "non-permit" carry. Conceal and Carry website says that NC allows Vt's to carry, but I can't find anything specific in NC about that.

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