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  1. asp ok?

    can you carry an asp in indiana? is there training. does you permit cover it, if so website link

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    Pardon my ignorance, but...

    What's an asp?
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    wolfhunter Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by squisher View Post
    Pardon my ignorance, but...

    What's an asp?
    ASP is actually the company name but their product is a telescoping baton.

  5. Why?

    As someone who has had training with the ASP expandable baton, and carried one for quite a while, I do not see why one would want to carry the baton. It is a specialized tool, that most civilians would never have a need for in thier normal lives. I carried one for several years and never used it except for one instance to keep a large snapping guard dog at a distance. It is not easy to conceal and usually just a step up on the use of force scale from empty hands. Not good against someone with clubs, knives, or guns.
    Just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magistrate PO View Post
    As someone who has had training with the ASP expandable baton, and carried one for quite a while, I do not see why one would want to carry the baton. It is a specialized tool, that most civilians would never have a need for in thier normal lives. I carried one for several years and never used it except for one instance to keep a large snapping guard dog at a distance. It is not easy to conceal and usually just a step up on the use of force scale from empty hands. Not good against someone with clubs, knives, or guns.
    Just my opinion.
    How many years on the job?? Only used one time? Well now a days the cops have the taser they like to shoot people with. But the baton is a vary nice tool to have for many reasons. Not every encounter calls for deadly force but you still need to defend your self. If your a small guy and a bigger guy try's to assault you a few hits with it and they are done. Again get training in it, vary cheap and well worth the money. Idk if cops still call them this or not but back in the day they called them the N beater.
    Last edited by S&WM&P40; 11-04-2008 at 12:30 AM.

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  7. Carried a firearm for over 30 years and never had to draw it once, carried a ASP for about 10 years and never hit anyone with it, carried pepper mace and have used it a few times. Pepper mace works great but always seem to get some blowback which burns like hell. Never tried a taser, but would like to see how it works. No one option is good for every situation.
    Just my opinion.

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    I have one, 26in. with holster. Don't carry it as most of the deputies in my squad have opted for the taser in place of OC spray and the baton;

    1. It is more effective in taking the fight out of a suspect.
    2. lightens the load on duty belts by getting rid of the baton and OC spray.
    3. OC spray sometimes gets blown back into the officers face.
    4. More legal troubles when using OC spray and or the baton.

    Here in Alabama you have to be certified through APOST (Alabama Peace Officers Standards and Training) in order to carry either the ASP impact weapon, Taser, or OC spray.
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    Nothing I can find in the IC

    Since there's nothing in the IC prohibiting it that I can find, it's legal but not under the authority of your IN LTC. Also keep in mind that defense sprays, martial arts weapons (expandable batons often fall into that legal classification) and electrical devices (i.e. stun guns and tasers) do not fall under State preemption laws except in States where your CCW applies to all weapons, not firearms. So be careful when carrying expandable batons, they are often classified as martial arts weapons which are illegal to possess in most States.

    Only a minority of the States have a true weapon endorsement, license or permit; FL and MO being two prime examples where your CCW is really a CCW and not a CCF.
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    Well NH is a state you can do what ever you would like. So ASP baton is ok to carry only thing you cant have is throwing knifes. Get Some training in it at a DOJO vary cheap and vary helpful. There are a lot of books and training videos out there.

    Here is a vary good one.

    YouTube - Collapsible Baton Tactics

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    wolfhunter Guest
    I carry a cane most of the time because of a recurring problem. Coincidentally, my cane bears a strong resemblence to the 34" riot baton I trained with in the Phillipines, except for a club-like head for better grip and support. Oh, unlike the Asp, the cane goes on the plane with me.

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