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    Confused about becoming an instructor.

    My wife and I live on 5.5 acres. We both have concealed carry permits and have had since they were first available here in Florida. We have a large pile of dirt out back with a large farm behind it that we use for a range. Friends come over and shoot quite often and there is always the discussion about someone's wife or even the husband getting a Carry permit.

    My Wife wants me to become an instructor and help these folks learn about firearms and safety so I can get them the permit. I'm not sure that's something I really want to do. First there is the liability (which I already have by allowing others to shoot on my land) and then there is the confusion about what is required to become an instructor. I have read many discussions on different firearm forums and no two people seem to agree on just what is necessary. I have been all over the NRA's website (yes I am a member) and to be honest, it's damned confusing.

    I guess I'm looking for a few opinions on what you would do in this situation and if you know what is required, I'm all ears.

    Thanks,

    bob...

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    Bob;

    Start by becoming an NRA certified pistol instuctor. It takes one weekend and allows you to teach NRA First Steps Pistol or Basic Pistol. Both great safety classes that teach the fundamentals. You can next move to NRA Personal Protection In The Home and then NRA Personal Protection Outside The Home. You can find NRA instuctor level courses close to you at NRAInstructors.org - Portal for NRA certified Instructors, NRA Education and Training.

    The NRA offers professional liability insurance to instructors. For about $325 per year you and your premises will be covered for $1million per incident and $2 million total.
    GOD, GUNS and GUITARS

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    Agree 100% with BC1
    I would go the NRA "way," and sign up for a weekend course in basic pistol, and take it from there. These are great courses, and will give you a good platform to build on.

    Good luck!
    NRA Certified Law Enforcement Instructor.
    NRA Certified Pistol Instructor.
    NRA Certified Range Safety Officer.

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    I completely agree that starting out with the NRA Basic Pistol Instructor course is Step #1. You probably already know a great deal about firearms, and may have a law enforcement or military background, but the instructor course isn't built to test your knowledge for certification purpose - the course helps to develop you as a new instructor. The first part of the course is a basic instruction on how to train others and how to present the basic curriculum for either pistol, rifle or shotgun (you'd probably select pistol to help others gain the basic knowledge they need to apply for a conceal permit). Check this class to find an instructor course in your area: NRAInstructors.org - Portal for NRA certified Instructors, NRA Education and Training.

    However, this is only the first step - the next step is to research and determine what the requirements are in your state to 1) apply for a permit and 2) qualify to train applicants.

    Look at Concealed Weapons or Firearm Program - Division of Licensing, FDACS for details on Florida's requirements for the conceal carry weapon (CCW) process. According to Acceptable Training Documentation - Division of Licensing, FDACS, teaching someone the NRA First Steps Orientation or NRA Basic Pistol Shooting courses will qualify for the training requirement!

    Do seriously consider the NRA instructor insurannce @ NRA Endorsed Insurance Program - Instructors Professional Liability.

    (No - I don't work for NRA - I just think it is an effective way to start out as an instructor.)

    Good luck,
    Joe
    Cheers,
    Joe Short
    First Defense, LLC (Culpeper, Virginia)

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    Thanks guys for the helpful advice. I guess I was trying to get out of spending an otherwise lazy weekend in the classroom. I really am not that interested in becoming an instructor for any other reason than helping a few friends and family members obtain the conceal carry permit here in Florida. I didn't intend to charge anyone money, but did plan to give them a thorough understanding of gun safety.

    So what you guys are saying is that I need those three courses in order to qualify as a certified instructor to sign someones permit application. Right?

    The other part of the equation of not charging for the course (since it would almost always be a one on one course) is that these courses aren't free. There goes my mad money.

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    No, sir - sorry - you only need to register for and successfully complete the NRA Instructor Pistol Shooting Course. That course alone qualifies you to teach two different NRA handgun classes, and certificates from both classes can be used by lawful citizens to apply for a Florida conceal permit.

    NRA FIRST Steps Pistol Orientation (4 hours)

    Firearm Instruction, Responsibility, and Safety Training — is the NRA’s response to the American public’s need for a firearm orientation program for new purchasers. NRA FIRST Steps Pistol is designed to provide a hands-on introduction to the safe handling and proper orientation to one specific pistol action type for classes of four or fewer students. This course is includes classroom and range time learning to shoot a specific pistol action type. Students will learn the NRA’s rules for safe gun handling; the particular pistol model parts and operation; ammunition; shooting fundamentals; cleaning the pistol; and continued opportunities for skill development.

    NRA Basic Pistol Shooting Course (8 Hours)

    Teaches the basic knowledge, skills, and attitude for owning and operating a pistol safely. This course includes classroom and range time learning to shoot revolvers and semi-automatic pistols. Students learn NRA’s rules for safe gun handling; pistol parts and operation; ammunition; shooting fundamentals; range rules; shooting from the bench rest position, and two handed standing positions; cleaning the pistol; and continued opportunities for skill development.
    Cheers,
    Joe Short
    First Defense, LLC (Culpeper, Virginia)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedbump View Post
    Thanks guys for the helpful advice. I guess I was trying to get out of spending an otherwise lazy weekend in the classroom. I really am not that interested in becoming an instructor for any other reason than helping a few friends and family members obtain the conceal carry permit here in Florida. I didn't intend to charge anyone money, but did plan to give them a thorough understanding of gun safety.

    So what you guys are saying is that I need those three courses in order to qualify as a certified instructor to sign someones permit application. Right?

    The other part of the equation of not charging for the course (since it would almost always be a one on one course) is that these courses aren't free. There goes my mad money.
    No, it's actually a great revenue source. For example, we charge $300 for the basic and advanced personal protection outside the home class, which is fourteen hours (Saturday & Sunday). We're generally full at 25 students... that's $7,500. But even 10 students is a good weekend take. I can pay two assistant instructors, range use fees and advertising leaving thousands for two days work... usually cash. Try that once per month and you have a significant income for each month. Well worth a few weekends and $1,000 in training tuition/fees.
    GOD, GUNS and GUITARS

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    To add, for florida...any prior training by/for Military, Law Enforcement (and most Armed Security Certifications) will meet the same requirements as NRA Basic Pistol. You just need to provide proper documentations
    CERTIFIED NRA INSTRUCTOR:
    PISTOL | RIFLE | SHOTGUN | PERSONAL PROTECTION I/O

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    No, sir - sorry - you only need to register for and successfully complete the NRA Instructor Pistol Shooting Course. That course alone qualifies you to teach two different NRA handgun classes, and certificates from both classes can be used by lawful citizens to apply for a Florida conceal permit.
    Thanks Joe, that clears it up a lot.

    No, it's actually a great revenue source. For example, we charge $300 for the basic and advanced personal protection in the home class, which is fourteen hours (Saturday & Sunday). We're generally full at 25 students... that's $7,500.
    Thanks BC1, I had no idea. Although, I'm really not that enthused about becoming a teacher, although the money is pretty tempting.

    To add, for florida...any prior training by/for Military, Law Enforcement (and most Armed Security Certifications) will meet the same requirements as NRA Basic Pistol. You just need to provide proper documentations
    Are you saying that I can give the conceal carry course by submitting my DD-214 or do you mean that I can attain the carry permit by having had Military experience. That's how I got my carry permit initially.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Speedbump View Post
    Thanks Joe, that clears it up a lot.



    Thanks BC1, I had no idea. Although, I'm really not that enthused about becoming a teacher, although the money is pretty tempting.



    Are you saying that I can give the conceal carry course by submitting my DD-214 or do you mean that I can attain the carry permit by having had Military experience. That's how I got my carry permit initially.

    The DD-214 is ONLY used in place of the NRA certificate to get your concealed carry permit in FLA.

    The DD-214 DOES NOT allow you to teach as a NRA certified instructor.

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