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  1. #11
    How about a .22 conversion? I know they are not cheap, and they are not available for every centerfire semi-auto, but you may find an application that suits you. I had a fellow come through a recent CCW class with a Glock outfitted with a .22 conversion. It shot well and was reliable. Check out this link: Jonathan Arthur Ciener, Inc. Gun Conversions

    We also make a couple of Taurus .22 revolvers available in our classes, which seems to work out well. Hard to beat a double-action revolver.

    As for the Wathers, well...for one thing, the many we have had come through appeared to be a bit finicky, ammo-wise. CCI Mini-Mags seem to work best. When you find the ammo it likes, stay with it as they do shoot well. Another thing I do not like is the magazine release arrangement. Seems like way too much fumbling around near the trigger. I know, the weapon is supposed to be empty and the muzzle is supposed to be pointed downrange. And with practice a fellow can get pretty competent with the magazine change. I'm not trying to start a fuss match with those that like the Walthers, just throwing another opinion into the mix.
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    Thumbs up Rimfire Shooting

    And they were bringing rimfire shooters to his shooting range that he might let them get a lane on his rifle range, and the disciples rebuked them. But when Jesus saw it, he was indignant and said to them, "Let the rimfire shooters come to me and set up in an empty lane on my shooting range; do not hinder them, for to such belongs at the gunclub of God. Truly, I say to you, whoever does not practice at my rifle range like these rimfire shooters shall not become a member of the gunclub of God." And he took them in his arms and blessed them, and gave them a twenty percent off coupon for their next purchase at Cabelas.

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    Buckmark for target,,, we use Walthers and have to feed good ammo. but their good for CCDW classes

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    I recommend the Walter P22 as well. I bought one last year before I took my concealed carry class. I looked at many .22 pistols before my CCW class because I was also looking for something my daughter could learn to shoot with as well. For the money NIB I could not beat it. I think it was $334 out the door.

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    I live and teach in Minnesota all year round. While the P22 is a good teaching gun in many ways, in the winter when it gets below 10 degrees they sometimes freeze up. My Mk III and Neos take the cold better. Still need to get 22 revolver.
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  7. Got both the Walther P22 and Browning Buckmark here.
    I am far more accurate with the Buckmark, but the P22 would be my choice out of everything mentioned so far. It's compact and has just about every feature full-size pistols have, including ambidextrous controls in case someone is left-handed.

  8. amsgator,

    I too ran into this problem and since the Ruger doesn't work like the typical defensive pistol (slide type and such), I found it difficult to use those in class for my comfort.

    Since I carry Glocks and shoot them in competitions from time to time, that seemed to fit. So I picked up the appropriate Advantage Arms conversion kits for my Glock 17's. I also picked up a pair of Taurus Tracker heavy target 22's with 6 inch barrels.

    I'm not a fan of Taurus at all and tend to steer folks away from them having had a 17 week nightmare and helping a few others through their own. However, the Tracker 22 heavy in 6 inch seems to have the right trigger feel DA and SA to meet the class needs as well as being inexpensive enough to buy more than one ($300 per roughly). Just make 100% sure you inspect them in person before you take them home. Just like everything else Taurus brings into the country it's chocked full of guns with problems. I went through 5 just to get 2 that would pass muster and they've been great thus far, I just wish I had gone stainless with them.

  9. For me I find the best 22 is the Sig Mosquito for training class. First you can find them fairly cheap in like new condition because they jam so much and are very selective on the ammo that they feed.It is basically a Sig 226 that is scaled down 10%.
    Take down is like a traditional Sig. With the problem of jamming, that's the best part. I find after about 200 rounds of CCI Blazer it starts to jam, saves me from tapping students on the shoulder and telling them to show me what to do on a Misfire or Hangfire.This gun does it on its own.
    As far as the Walther P22, I find that most women like the handgun because of the small grip radius , but most men feel it is too small for their large hands.

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    After reading this thread you guys gave me some ideas so I went to our local gun shop and looked at most of what you guys suggested. So far, Ive looked at just about every semi-auto 22 and none seem to want to break down easy, im not sure I was satisfied with any of them. Our gun dealer suggested a conversion kit for either a 1911 or one of the glocks ... they run about 300-400 (cheaper if you can find used) Im seriously considering one of these, as the price is about the same amount as a 22 semi-auto.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by pmb61 View Post
    For me I find the best 22 is the Sig Mosquito for training class. First you can find them fairly cheap in like new condition because they jam so much and are very selective on the ammo that they feed.It is basically a Sig 226 that is scaled down 10%.
    Take down is like a traditional Sig. With the problem of jamming, that's the best part. I find after about 200 rounds of CCI Blazer it starts to jam, saves me from tapping students on the shoulder and telling them to show me what to do on a Misfire or Hangfire.This gun does it on its own.
    As far as the Walther P22, I find that most women like the handgun because of the small grip radius , but most men feel it is too small for their large hands.

    I ran into an issue with the Mosquito at an 8 hour advanced course recently. A shooter MUST be cautious of his/her grip with the Mosquito. It's easy for a shooter to be pushing upwards on the slide lock which can result in a rearward locked slide during firing. I had to watch carefully to see that this was actually happening.

    If you catch this and can identify it as such, it's best if they use it as a rest for the thumb, but that poses the problem of not having it lock rearward once empty. Hand size and grip-style can make this a non-issue.

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