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    Quote Originally Posted by RussP View Post
    How about quoting your answer, please. Either you are or you ae not - yes or no.
    post # 14 in this thread

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    Wow, just wow, I am so sorry that you have no clue... let me try again...

    YOU CANNOT RESIST ARREST AFTER THE ARREST HAS ALREADY HAPPENED!

    It is a little too late, the time to do so has already passed.....

    I have read your posts... (shaking my head in amazement)
    You say I have no clue?? Buddy you are now talking about Waco and Ruby Ridge - Whiskey Tango Foxtrot??

    The OP gave suggestions on what you should do if pulled over by LEO in order to make things easier on you and LEO.

    You say things like read the whole thread. TAKE YOUR OWN ADVICE and read the OP! My God NO ONE including the OPer is saying just let the cops unlawfully search your home, take your guns, rape your wife, burn your house down or anything else of the like. We all stand for our rights.
    However when you post things like cops committing murder and the courts are biased you just make your self look totaly clueless.
    Is our country perfect? Hell no! Are there things going on in the courts and in law enforcment that are wrong? YES! But we live in a country where WE the people have the power to change that. We have laws and the power of a vote. FIGHT yes, but fight the right way, get a clue man! You are on a public forum advocating resisting arrest and implying you WILL shoot the first LEO who asks you to step out of the car. You do not sound like a conservative, nor a patriot - you sound like a radical zealot!

    I do have a clue. I have many friends who are LEOS. I know Cops, detectives, a police chief and a sheriff. I know they all have one thing in common; they want to go home at night. They have no CLUE who you are when they pull you over and out of a since of self preservation they MUST be on guard. If you start arguing and resisting anything short of being illegally beaten or having your home illegally searched you will wind up dead or in jail for a very long time.

    If you want to be a cowboy and go out in a blaze of glory then go ahead, don't ask me to stand with you. I am to busy trying to make sure my grandchildren get to grow up in the same America that I did.
    "Work Hard, Do Your Best, Keep Your Word, Never Get Too Big For Your Britches, Trust In God and Never Forget a Friend. "

  4. Quote Originally Posted by Axeanda45 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeanda45 View Post
    There are a few situations where the only choice for a free man/woman is to NOT obey unlawful orders from police. If you do not have those instances already figured out/decided upon before they happen..... May your chains rest lightly............

    The courts have proven that they are biased on some types of quote "laws/regulations" and you cannot get a fair trial. There are some "Federal" agencies who have, and still do falsify evidence and lie in court. Why would you want to go along with the unlawful/false arrest if you have no other chance of justice?

    This is something we all need to decide for ourselves, where our own certain line in the sand is...... I myself will die a free man, if I am FORCED to defend myself. (yes, that is the correct word, they have the choice to obey the constitution instead of infringing on MY Constitutional Rights, THEY would be breaking their oaths and the Supreme Law of this land, not me)

    If enough of us so-called 2nd Amendment supporters would actually give our lives, or at last be willing to without a doubt, then the 2nd Amendment would actually be a deterrent to those in power, instead of a little nuisance/irritant. Is that not the main reason it was included in the Bill of Rights?

    Talk/posts of "you should alway's do what the nice officer say's" is only re-enforcing their false/illegal power and weakening ours, they are taking away our freedoms, and you that talk that way are helping them.

    Now, before you start flaming me........ I am NOT saying that you should shoot a cop over a speeding ticket, or refuse to give him your name, or be an idiot about small matters/situations. What I AM saying is that we each need to think about just what we will and will not allow to be done to us. We need to have the training (and resolve) to defend ourselves if/when we need to, regardless if the person we are defending ourselves from has a uniform or badge...........
    What exactly is your line in the sand? What will you not allow to be done to you by a person who has a uniform or badge?

    You say not a speeding ticket, not over a request for a name, or some small matter/situation. What is the unreasonable act by law enforcement that you feel justifies your use of deadly force against them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RussP View Post
    What exactly is your line in the sand? What will you not allow to be done to you by a person who has a uniform or badge?

    You say not a speeding ticket, not over a request for a name, or some small matter/situation. What is the unreasonable act by law enforcement that you feel justifies your use of deadly force against them?

    My goodness, must I make a recording of it and send it to you? read the second paragraph in that post you quoted from me............. read my other posts...... go away........

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    I smell a troll
    YOU smell a troll???


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    I have read your posts... (shaking my head in amazement)
    You say I have no clue?? Buddy you are now talking about Waco and Ruby Ridge - Whiskey Tango Foxtrot??

    The OP gave suggestions on what you should do if pulled over by LEO in order to make things easier on you and LEO.

    You say things like read the whole thread. TAKE YOUR OWN ADVICE and read the OP! My God NO ONE including the OPer is saying just let the cops unlawfully search your home, take your guns, rape your wife, burn your house down or anything else of the like. We all stand for our rights.
    However when you post things like cops committing murder and the courts are biased you just make your self look totaly clueless.
    Is our country perfect? Hell no! Are there things going on in the courts and in law enforcment that are wrong? YES! But we live in a country where WE the people have the power to change that. We have laws and the power of a vote. FIGHT yes, but fight the right way, get a clue man! You are on a public forum advocating resisting arrest and implying you WILL shoot the first LEO who asks you to step out of the car. You do not sound like a conservative, nor a patriot - you sound like a radical zealot!

    I do have a clue. I have many friends who are LEOS. I know Cops, detectives, a police chief and a sheriff. I know they all have one thing in common; they want to go home at night. They have no CLUE who you are when they pull you over and out of a since of self preservation they MUST be on guard. If you start arguing and resisting anything short of being illegally beaten or having your home illegally searched you will wind up dead or in jail for a very long time.

    If you want to be a cowboy and go out in a blaze of glory then go ahead, don't ask me to stand with you. I am to busy trying to make sure my grandchildren get to grow up in the same America that I did.



    The subject that was being discussed is resisting arrest.
    NOT
    what constitutes false arrest,
    NOT unlawful arrest...

    Why have you gone off on this tangent?
    You have now proven beyond a doubt that you have no clue.

    Do yourself and others reading this thread a favor..... read the ENTIRE THREAD, IN ORDER.......then you will see why I responded to that particular post you have such a hard-on over. Then make your statement, all you have done so far is show your ignorance by going off on a tangent about something you imagined in your head that you think I said, instead of actually reading it and comprehending the words.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Axeanda45 View Post
    My goodness, must I make a recording of it and send it to you? read the second paragraph in that post you quoted from me.............
    The courts have proven that they are biased on some types of quote "laws/regulations" and you cannot get a fair trial. There are some "Federal" agencies who have, and still do falsify evidence and lie in court. Why would you want to go along with the unlawful/false arrest if you have no other chance of justice?
    read my other posts...... go away........
    In reading your other posts I understand you do not recognize lower court decisions and the resulting case law. You focus on unlawful/false arrest basing the "unlawful/false" on your rejection of those decisions and the case law. I believe you even reject some SCOTUS decisions you find inconvenient. And say you will use lethal force against those enforcing the laws you reject.

    My question remains, what specific laws if enforced will result in your killing those sent to enforce them? You know what they are. You've said you do and you challenged others to draw their lines in the sand.

    I look forward to your honest answers.

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    To some on this forum:

    Please, don't read one post at the end of a thread, or even in the middle, without taking into account the rest of the thread, especially if there are multiple posts by one person. You need to read all the posts by that person in the order they are posted and see what they are responding to and why. A lot of the responses and posts on this thread would not have even been here if people didnt butt in to middle of the conversation without knowing the entire discussion......

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    Quote Originally Posted by RussP View Post
    In reading your other posts I understand you do not recognize lower court decisions and the resulting case law. You focus on unlawful/false arrest basing the "unlawful/false" on your rejection of those decisions and the case law. I believe you even reject some SCOTUS decisions you find inconvenient. And say you will use lethal force against those enforcing the laws you reject.

    My question remains, what specific laws if enforced will result in your killing those sent to enforce them? You know what they are. You've said you do and you challenged others to draw their lines in the sand.

    I look forward to your honest answers.
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    Snip* Should the government order the confiscation of all arms, fine.Snip*

    That bolded area in the quote is what I was talking about, most all others aren't worth it. BTW, any cop killer won't live very long,even if it was justified/self-defense, that is just the nature of things now.
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    If enough of us so-called 2nd Amendment supporters would actually give our lives, or at last be willing to without a doubt, then the 2nd Amendment would actually be a deterrent to those in power, instead of a little nuisance/irritant. Is that not the main reason it was included in the Bill of Rights?
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    The courts have proven that they are biased on some types of quote "laws/regulations" and you cannot get a fair trial. There are some "Federal" agencies who have, and still do falsify evidence and lie in court. Why would you want to go along with the unlawful/false arrest if you have no other chance of justice?

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    The police (mainly Federal ) have a proven track-record of abuse and even murder (Waco, Ruby Ridge, and more) They have framed honest, law-abiding citizens because their firearm broke! (Olofson)
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    I am sorry if the above copy and paste of some of my posts isnt enough of an answer, I feel that they more than answer your question.......

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