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    Last Thursday as I was out running some errands, I had just entered the freeway and hit the gas to get into traffic. The highway was busy and moving rapidly. Just as I passed the next exit, there he was, sitting on the side of the road "taking pictures". On came the bubble gum machine and I was nailed doing 76 mph in a 55 zone.

    I pulled as far to the right of the shoulder as was possible to give the officer room to approach the car, turned the 4 ways on and placed my hands at 10 and 2 on the wheel.

    When the officer arrived he asked for DL and Insurance.

    Then as courtesy demands, I advised the officer that I have a CCW permit and that I was armed and told him where my gun was located. I asked him how he would like me to proceed. He said he was cool and asked me what I was carrying.

    He then went back to his car and a few minutes later he came back with the ticket. But this is when it became good. He told me that I had handled advising him of my weapon in an excellent manner and that instead of issuing a ticket for 76 in a 55 he was only going to issue a ticket for going 60 in a 55.

    Holding a CCW permit saved my bacon. Because I was cited for only going 5 mph over the limit, it was not a moving violation and no points will be accessed on my DL.
    Last edited by BARNDOUGH; 01-11-2008 at 12:37 PM. Reason: TYPOGRAPHICAL ERROR

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    Thumbs up

    courtesy given to a fellow "good guy"

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    Very nicely handled on both ends, the best is once in a blue moon encounter where he asks to hold your piece and after examination hands you his to see what you think, but I think that only happens in the sticks.

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    Always good to hear

    I can still remember getting pulled over with my friend driving his car in High School. Only to find that my friend stashed his Desert Eagle in the Trunk and forgetting allowed the officer a full car search. Ha..Boy I think the look on my face was more classic than the officers when he opened the trunk. But like any good back country officer, he understood that Gun does not equal bad and that my friend was at least storing it properly. "He even asked if he could take it out to the range sometime". Its always good to see similar instances with CCW pull overs. Although I do not condone breaking the law, I think the majority of officers out there realize we are on their side and are "THE GOOD GUYS". Acting cool headed and making the officer feel safe goes a long way to getting a lesser punishment You handled the pull over well. I had not really put thought into the emergency flashers, makes sense though. Always something to remember when you run across the occasional jerk officer. They get phased out pretty quick, and what remains are truly our finest. Hats off to another good incident.
    They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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    that's the way it should be in every stop BUT, i was in my county sherrif's office talking to a deputy, a city officer, and then a state trooper. The first two were cool to all aspects of the previous stop just talked about. The state trooper not so nice. He told me very strongly that once he found out about the weapon he would draw his weapon upon you then seperate you from the weapon until he was done. First thought in my mind was my wife, my 8 & 6 year old daughters in the vehicle that i've taught the police officers are the good guys and here to help them is pointing their weapon at me! Makes you think. I didn't like this guy much as he was too cocky and the other officers didn't think much of it either.

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    Always an

    a$$6013 out there somewhere. You ran into one (thankfully at the station). Maybe he will mature or the other two will apply a little peer pressure to him. You can only hope.

    Speaking personally, if I ever get a gun pulled and pointed at me without a damned good reason (like a lot more than I volunteered my license to them), there's gonna be a complaint letter in someone's file folder - guarranteed.
    Last edited by ecocks; 01-13-2008 at 01:05 PM.
    Reality, DEAL with IT!

  8. The way you informed him was perfect. I'm an LEO and I love seeing other 'good guys' carrying. Usually I like to talk shop if the person has time or seems friendly but probably not on the side of the freeway like in this case. Keep carryin!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BARNDOUGH View Post
    Last Thursday as I was out running some errands, I had just entered the freeway and hit the gas to get into traffic. The highway was busy and moving rapidly. Just as I passed the next exit, there he was, sitting on the side of the road "taking pictures". On came the bubble gum machine and I was nailed doing 76 mph in a 55 zone.

    I pulled as far to the right of the shoulder as was possible to give the officer room to approach the car, turned the 4 ways on and placed my hands at 10 and 2 on the wheel.

    When the officer arrived he asked for DL and Insurance.

    Then as courtesy demands, I advised the officer that I have a CCW permit and that I was armed and told him where my gun was located. I asked him how he would like me to proceed. He said he was cool and asked me what I was carrying.

    He then went back to his car and a few minutes later he came back with the ticket. But this is when it became good. He told me that I had handled advising him of my weapon in an excellent manner and that instead of issuing a ticket for 76 in a 55 he was only going to issue a ticket for going 60 in a 55.

    Holding a CCW permit saved my bacon. Because I was cited for only going 5 mph over the limit, it was not a moving violation and no points will be accessed on my DL.
    Interesting, but why should a reduction in a traffic fine have anything to do with your legal carry conceal status?
    I like favors and breaks like anybody else but realize that nothing is ever free. What you did was bolster the LEO's unwarranted and unappointed self importance.
    He's a People's servant, remember? His authority is limited, remember? He is sworn to the U.S. Constitution, remember? What makes us want to reduce our inalienable God-given status, voluntarily and unnecessarily, to a tax payer-funded employee? What makes us cajole an employee of the government when the law doesn't require it? Unless Kansas or Missouri requires preemptive declaration that your're legally packin' on a traffic stop, why not consider the alternative - stay quite - discuss only the traffic issue.
    We're hindered enough with regulations when compared to the awesome liberty that "Old Document" gives us. We lose it by trying to be nice - nice wasn't a consideration during the 1787 Constitutional Convention. I say all this with respect to you. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BARNDOUGH View Post
    Then as courtesy demands, I advised the officer that I have a CCW permit and that I was armed and told him where my gun was located.
    Sorry, but I must disagree. First, courtesy demands no such thing. I am unsure whether you were in KC Kansas or Missouri, but neither state requires notification. If you are not directed to exit the vehicle, good sense should tell you NOT to discuss your carrying with the officer. If you are legally carrying, and have no intention of using that firearm on said officer, then little good can come of you bringing it up.

    If you want to be courteous, then make a contribution to the police widows and orphans fund. Don't do it by giving up the liberties and freedoms that so many fought, bled, and died in order for you to enjoy. Besides, for every officer who cuts you slack on the ticket, there are five who would rather spread eagle you on the side of the highway to disarm you "for everyone's safety".
    "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boomboy007:291225
    Quote Originally Posted by BARNDOUGH View Post
    Then as courtesy demands, I advised the officer that I have a CCW permit and that I was armed and told him where my gun was located.
    Sorry, but I must disagree. First, courtesy demands no such thing. I am unsure whether you were in KC Kansas or Missouri, but neither state requires notification. If you are not directed to exit the vehicle, good sense should tell you NOT to discuss your carrying with the officer. If you are legally carrying, and have no intention of using that firearm on said officer, then little good can come of you bringing it up.

    If you want to be courteous, then make a contribution to the police widows and orphans fund. Don't do it by giving up the liberties and freedoms that so many fought, bled, and died in order for you to enjoy. Besides, for every officer who cuts you slack on the ticket, there are five who would rather spread eagle you on the side of the highway to disarm you "for everyone's safety".
    Hey boom, threads over two years old, not sure if you are going to get a response.
    “One of the illusions of life is that the present hour is not the critical, decisive one.” – Ralph Waldo Emerson

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