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  1. #11
    A lot of police support the 2nd Amendment. Some don't. Those have what I call an elitist attitude. Also sad to say not all police know or understand the law and many have no idea what the Constitution says. I know this to be true because I spent a few years in law enforcement.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    Quote Originally Posted by snidley237 View Post
    So what is "while I was utilizing my ccw permit" waving it around in the air?????? Maybe you should check out the word "concealed" in Websters.... FULLSTOP...... Why would you have this out for the public to view???? Especially at a PGR Mission.....That is what burns me the most.... Do what you want in the supermarket parking lot but not on a funeral mission....Pure lack of good judgement,,, in my opinion..... ""If the officer hadnt acted all weird about everything I could have put him at ease by showing him my badge. I am a Sergeant for the State of Oklahoma Department of Corrections. But whats the fun in that right? Those are your words.... If you want to antagonize the LEO, espaecially at an important mission for the PGR you do not belong there... We need the LEO to understand we are law abiding responsible citlzens and not HOT DOGS trying to have fun at LEO expense, which affects us all.... You should apologize to the Ride Captain AND THE FAMILY,,,,for jepoardizing the FUNERAL AND ESCORT MISSION for a soldier...
    It's impossible for BG to attack citizens at a funeral, so I'd have to agree with snidley237 and say that Austin was totally paranoid in CCing while on a PGR mission.

    Now in the real world, responsible gun owners know that bad things can happen to good people at any time. With that in mind, I CC wherever legally possible. If the PGR mission was jeopardized by anyone, it would be by the rookie cop who handled the situation poorly.

    Take a chill pill snidley, the funeral went on without a hitch. As a member of the military, if it were my funeral, I'd be happy to see that my family and friends were being protected by people like Austin. Having worked in the funeral industry, and having served on many color guards, I'm full aware that immediate family members have a lot on their mind during the funeral. Their personal safety is usually not their first priority.

    Good going Austin. Thanks for your service on PGR missions!




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  4. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by snidley237 View Post
    So what is "while I was utilizing my ccw permit" waving it around in the air?????? Maybe you should check out the word "concealed" in Websters.... FULLSTOP...... Why would you have this out for the public to view???? Especially at a PGR Mission.....That is what burns me the most.... Do what you want in the supermarket parking lot but not on a funeral mission....Pure lack of good judgement,,, in my opinion..... ""If the officer hadnt acted all weird about everything I could have put him at ease by showing him my badge. I am a Sergeant for the State of Oklahoma Department of Corrections. But whats the fun in that right? Those are your words.... If you want to antagonize the LEO, espaecially at an important mission for the PGR you do not belong there... We need the LEO to understand we are law abiding responsible citlzens and not HOT DOGS trying to have fun at LEO expense, which affects us all.... You should apologize to the Ride Captain AND THE FAMILY,,,,for jepoardizing the FUNERAL AND ESCORT MISSION for a soldier...
    all i can say is full on idiot. there WAS NEVER anything stated about waving it around.. stop tryin to be a keybord warrior. ur making urself look dumb!

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    I ride every PGR mission that I can, from Buffalo to Syracuse and Lake Ontario into PA.
    And there have been quite a few.
    And I carry all the time.
    Its not that I think that I'll be robbed or attacked at a funeral, but sometimes there is a long distance to travel and you never know when your going to return home or where you may breakdown.
    I have nothing but the utmost respect for the fallen troops and there families and in no way would I bring shame on them or the PGR.
    Some people I ride with know I carry all the time and I don't advertise it to the PGR, but if they found out and asked me not to carry I would have to stop riding with them.

    Ride and carry.

  6. #15
    I have attended more than my share of funerals over the last several years both for relatives and friends. I am getting to that age when one expects it I guess. Anyway there has never been a funeral that I was not packing. I have said it before and I say it again, until I become clairvoyant I will carry every place I go.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    Quote Originally Posted by snidley237 View Post
    So what is "while I was utilizing my ccw permit" waving it around in the air?????? Maybe you should check out the word "concealed" in Websters.... FULLSTOP...... Why would you have this out for the public to view???? Especially at a PGR Mission.....That is what burns me the most.... Do what you want in the supermarket parking lot but not on a funeral mission....Pure lack of good judgement,,, in my opinion..... ""If the officer hadnt acted all weird about everything I could have put him at ease by showing him my badge. I am a Sergeant for the State of Oklahoma Department of Corrections. But whats the fun in that right? Those are your words.... If you want to antagonize the LEO, espaecially at an important mission for the PGR you do not belong there... We need the LEO to understand we are law abiding responsible citlzens and not HOT DOGS trying to have fun at LEO expense, which affects us all.... You should apologize to the Ride Captain AND THE FAMILY,,,,for jepoardizing the FUNERAL AND ESCORT MISSION for a soldier...
    TROLL with 9 posts and ignorant grammer. Obviously not able to comprehend basic English prose. Fail. Ignore.

  8. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by snidley237 View Post
    So what is "while I was utilizing my ccw permit" waving it around in the air??????
    I thought he meant he was carrying. How could you possibly think anything else? I was taught to read every word in the sentence to fully understand it. Your logic is at best flawed.

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    Ah. I believe we have a new troll on the forum. Snidley237, find another forum to bother.

    Bad troll. Bad.

  10. #19
    Actually I believe the fault is mine. While pondering what the problem might be I believe that the mis-communication is none other than my fault.

    Having carried for several years I have began to develop a bad habit of calling the concealed carry license a CCW, which to people new to carrying and these forums could rightfully determine to mean Concealed Carry Weapon. I guess I should start calling in an Oklahoma Self Defense Act Concealed Firearm Permit or OK.S.D.A.C.F.P. for short.

    Upon reflection I have also determined that I need to apologize for losing my temper. These forums have helped me immensely and I need to respect them as such. I would hate for someone that is brand new to this site to look on here and see me losing my temper and consider that the normal for this site, which I can personally assure that it is not.

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    -Austin

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    My only thought to add here is in the definition of "contact".As in the law says when "contacted by law enforcement".I don't know about you but to me that doesn't mean when a LEO comes up to "shoot the bull" with me.To me that means I am being QUESTIONED about something to do with a CRIME he thinks I either 1,have commited,or 2,I have knewledge of.Personally,I don't feel like if he just wants to "talk about the weather" he needs to know I am carrying,sorry but that is how I interpret the law.

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