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    Quote Originally Posted by bruceg1220 View Post
    As far as I know the individual on the stop should notify the LEO that you are armed as soon as possible during the stop.
    Oh yes, absolutely. You don't want to be no damned accident -to quote Richard Pryor.
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    I have never been stopped while CCw-ing.... but I have made a decision that I will always notify right up front.

    Why... out of respect and coutesy... and hope it buys me some "brownie points" for being such.

    I personally see no downside if I just state... (After he introduces himself and states what he wants)... when it is my turn to talk I will say.... (keep your hands on the steering wheel at all times - in plain site)

    "Hello officer, I would like to let you know right up front as a coutesy, that I am a legal conceal carry permit holder and currently have my firearm on me. How would you like me to proceed or what would you like me to do?"

    Even if you get an officer who is "edgy" at least you have been up front. If you get a relaxed offcer who understands CCW, they will be more at ease.

    I just think (my opinion only) that there is no downside to being polite and stating your being courteous right up front.... hey a little "ass kissing just may get you a warning and no ticket... let the officer find out you have a firearm and you surprised him.... you'll get one for sure (LEO's don't like surprises except on their birthdays)!!!
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  4. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by JIDinPhilly View Post
    Philly makes up their own rules regardless of state law.
    Which violates the state's preemption law.

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    My state is not a "must inform" state, however...

    IMO, it is always good to inform if stopped...I'd rather avoid misunderstandings that might make things go south.

    I am a retired LEO who sits on an area review board so most local officers know me and that I carry, but any I do not know get my permit and retired badge when they get my DL...I've been shot before and would rather avoid doing it again.


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    Thumbs down I see the makings of another CCW badge thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by PaxMentis View Post
    My state is not a "must inform" state, however...

    IMO, it is always good to inform if stopped...I'd rather avoid misunderstandings that might make things go south.

    I am a retired LEO who sits on an area review board so most local officers know me and that I carry, but any I do not know get my permit and retired badge when they get my DL...I've been shot before and would rather avoid doing it again.

    So are you recomending carrying one of those CCW badges to hand to the cops when pulled over?

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    Cool LEO stop

    G50AE: I have read on different forums that some states get quite hostile about those badges and can charge you with impersonating a LEO. I wish that there was some way of identifying oneself as having CCW license and not making the LEO uncomfortable but apparently there is none. I will do as previously mentioned, hold on to the steering wheel while telling the officer I am carrying and not act like I want to reach for something. Hope I don't get a big itch at that time which needs scratching!!

  8. Quote Originally Posted by G50AE View Post
    So are you recomending carrying one of those CCW badges to hand to the cops when pulled over?
    PAX is a retired LEO he is carrying a retired LEO badge. He said he presents his carry permit and his retired LEO badge, not a CCW badge.

    IMO CCW badge is a no-go. You are already carrying a permit to satisfy any questions that may be asked by someone who should be asking.

  9. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by G50AE View Post
    So are you recomending carrying one of those CCW badges to hand to the cops when pulled over?
    In keeping with the tone of your response...

    So...are you comprehension challenged or did you just misread my post?



    Many police agencies issue a replica of one's duty badge with the word "Retired" added upon retirement...a far different animal than a "CCW Badge". The badge and/or the ID that comes with it is actually sufficient without a CHL...but I choose to have the permit also. The badge merely affords me a little extra courtesy from officers who do not know me.

  10. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgrunt View Post
    G50AE: ...I wish that there was some way of identifying oneself as having CCW license and not making the LEO uncomfortable but apparently there is none.
    I wholeheartedly agree. As I can understand a LEO's apprehension in a traffic stop with someone who is armed (other than them) but I agree, you would think that once you give them your CCW ID that they would at least feel less threaten since the state has deemed you eligible to carry, the way they do when dealing with a retired LEO. As a LEO, I would worry more about people without a permit who may be mentally unstable, or have incidents in their past that may cause a confrontation.

    Does anyone have any incident about CCW having a shootout with a LEO?

  11. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgrunt View Post
    I wish that there was some way of identifying oneself as having CCW license and not making the LEO uncomfortable but apparently there is none. I will do as previously mentioned, hold on to the steering wheel while telling the officer I am carrying and not act like I want to reach for something. Hope I don't get a big itch at that time which needs scratching!!
    A few suggestions:

    1. Carry your wallet in your "weak side" hip pocket.

    2. When stopped, remove your wallet from the pocket and toss it on the dashboard...then hands on steering wheel until the officer is at the window and asks for license.

    3. Present the CHL with the license...the officer will normally ask at that time if you are carrying...tell him and tell him where it is.

    No system is foolproof, but this is less likely to cause alarm than any other method I have found. The officer may be a bit put off to see you getting your wallet, but as long as you do not turn around while he approaches and have your hands in view when he arrives at the window, things are very unlikely to "go south".

    YMMV

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