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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by asaling View Post
    Umm - Last I knew, at least where I live in the State of Michigan, "heavily armored bank robbers are to be delt with by LEO not some guy eating at Ponderosa!
    What about the gas station snipers from a few years ago?

    Or when you find out you have people like such
    FBI raids residences in Lenawee County - Adrian, MI - The Daily Telegram
    living near where you dine/shop on a regular basis?

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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by eaccents View Post
    I'm with GuyNAndover--carrying concealed allows you your rights without provoking those around you. Are we the minority opinion???

    Everyone has rights. Sure we have the right to bear arms, but is our right to bear arms more important than the rights of others to eat a peaceful meal at their local Ponderosa? Is it more important than the rights of Ponderosa to try to run a business since customers are leaving because your run-in with the cops seems to be escalating?

    I carry a gun every day, and yes, my rights guarantee that I CAN. But my rights to carry aren't more important than the rights of others--who may or may not share my point of view, my sense of comfort around firearms, or the knowledge that I am not bent on harming anyone--so I carry concealed in places where open carry isn't common.

    Carrying a gun isn't all about ME. It is about my peace of mind. I carry concealed so that those around me can have the same.
    If you have to have a piece of paper from the state, saying you can carry concealed, then it's not a right. It's a privilege. Until we have the same type of carry as Vermont, it will be a privilege and not a right to carry concealed.
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  4. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by S&WM&P40 View Post
    That's just the problem! It was not just a normal dinner while OCing! I don't know about you but when I open carry I don't walk around with a video camera hoping that something happens so I can play the GOT YOU GAME on YOUTUBE! OCing a Ar-15 on your back has no point other then for the LOOK AT ME I'M SO COOL! Their are two kinds of OCer (A) the person who can not get a CWP and can only carry his/her firearm legally OC style. (B) The attention seeking douchebag who runs around town looking/hoping/praying for something to happen so he can play who knows the law better with the police. Bottom line the video in the OP the manager states "HE DOES NOT WANT THEM THERE"!!!!!! I have no problem with OC I have a Problem with people who fall into category (B).

    I do walk around with a video recorder and voice recorder because in this state the cops are not always correct and think that oc is illegal or think that bcause you have a concealed license you MUST carry concealed. I disagree with only two kinds of people, in this state you can open carry in places you cannot cc if you have your conceal carry permit.
    Here is where you can view this information
    http://www.michigan.gov/documents/ms...2_336854_7.pdf

    Here is one case that shows cops do not know the laws about oc
    YouTube - Hamaneggs Encounter - Gunpoint, Illegal Search, Assult and Battery Part 1

    Here is a second case of lawful carrying to inform the public and cops about oc laws, they have a video camera as well does that mean they are playing the got you game? No it's to cover your ass when something happens or god forbid you have to use your firarm to protect yourself either against a threat or uninformed officer.
    YouTube - Wayne County Sheriff "No Weapons Allowed"




    As for the manager stating he does not want them there was him changing his mind they called ahead weeks before hand and notified they would be carrying and he had no problem with it at that time.
    Last edited by emt232004; 01-04-2011 at 10:45 AM. Reason: .

  5. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by emt232004 View Post
    What about the gas station snipers from a few years ago?

    Or when you find out you have people like such
    FBI raids residences in Lenawee County - Adrian, MI - The Daily Telegram
    living near where you dine/shop on a regular basis?
    Your really starting to sound like a Mall ninja! It's not the public's job to engage bag guys unless they are between you and the exit. What good would having a long gun be Vs a sniper? If your talking about the DC snipers a long gun would have been useless as their sniper hide was in the truck of a car. Even if they had been in a field you cant just take a knee and start shooting.

    THEY MAY TAKE OUR LIVES BUT THEY'LL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM!!!!!

  6. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by emt232004 View Post
    I do walk around with a video recorder and voice recorder because in this state the cops are not always correct and think that oc is illegal or think that bcause you have a concealed license you MUST carry concealed. I disagree with only two kinds of people, in this state you can open carry in places you cannot cc if you have your conceal carry permit.
    Here is where you can view this information
    http://www.michigan.gov/documents/ms...2_336854_7.pdf

    Here is one case that shows cops do not know the laws about oc
    YouTube - Hamaneggs Encounter - Gunpoint, Illegal Search, Assult and Battery Part 1

    Here is a second case of lawful carrying to inform the public and cops about oc laws, they have a video camera as well does that mean they are playing the got you game? No it's to cover your ass when something happens or god forbid you have to use your firarm to protect yourself either against a threat or uninformed officer.
    YouTube - Wayne County Sheriff "No Weapons Allowed"
    LOL, if you can OC in places that you cant CC then that would fall into category (A). Again who walks around with a video camera? No one unless your looking for something to happen. You would not have the time to pull the camera out and turn it on and shoot your attacker. If you have enough time to pull out a camera and start filming before someone attacks you making you use deadly force. Then you have more then enough time to WALK AWAY!!!!!!!

    THEY MAY TAKE OUR LIVES BUT THEY'LL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM!!!!!

  7. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by S&WM&P40 View Post
    Your really starting to sound like a Mall ninja! It's not the public's job to engage bag guys unless they are between you and the exit. What good would having a long gun be Vs a sniper? If your talking about the DC snipers a long gun would have been useless as their sniper hide was in the truck of a car. Even if they had been in a field you cant just take a knee and start shooting.
    Right mall ninja because I support legal oc for both pistols and long arms? Then mall ninja I be

  8. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by emt232004 View Post
    What about the gas station snipers from a few years ago?

    Or when you find out you have people like such
    FBI raids residences in Lenawee County - Adrian, MI - The Daily Telegram
    living near where you dine/shop on a regular basis?
    No it's posts such as this that make you seem like a mall ninja.

    THEY MAY TAKE OUR LIVES BUT THEY'LL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM!!!!!

  9. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by S&WM&P40 View Post
    LOL, if you can OC in places that you cant CC then that would fall into category (A). Again who walks around with a video camera? No one unless your looking for something to happen. You would not have the time to pull the camera out and turn it on and shoot your attacker. If you have enough time to pull out a camera and start filming before someone attacks you making you use deadly force. Then you have more then enough time to WALK AWAY!!!!!!!
    MCL 750.234d provides that it is a 90 day misdemeanor to possess a firearm on the premises of any of the following:
    A depository financial institution (e.g., bank or credit union)
    A church or other place of religious worship
    A court
    A theater
    A sports arena
    A day care center
    A hospital
    An establishment licensed under the Liquor Control Code

    The above section does not apply to any of the following:
    The owner or a person hired as security (if the firearm is possessed for the purpose of providing security)
    A peace officer
    A person with a valid concealed pistol license (CPL) issued by any state
    A person who possesses on one of the above listed premises with the permission of the owner or owner’s agent



    MCL 28.425o provides that a person with a valid CPL shall not carry a concealed pistol in a pistol-free zone. First offense is a state civil infraction. The following is a list of the premises (excluding parking lots) included in the statute:

    School or school property, except a parent or legal guardian who is dropping off or picking up a child and the pistol is kept in the vehicle
    Public or private day care center
    Sports arena or stadium
    A bar or tavern where sale and consumption of liquor by the glass is the primary source of income (does not apply to owner or employee of the business).
    Any property or facility owned or operated by a church, synagogue, mosque, temple, or other place of worship, unless authorized by the presiding official
    An entertainment facility that has a seating capacity of 2,500 or more
    A hospital
    A dormitory or classroom of a community college, college, or university
    A casino (R 432.1212, MCL 432.202)

    Note, the above statute applies to CPL holders carrying a concealed pistol. If the CPL holder is carrying a non-concealed pistol, the statute does not apply. As noted above, the unlawful premises listed in MCL 750.234d do not apply to persons with a valid CPL. Therefore, a person with a valid CPL may carry a non-concealed pistol in the areas described in MCL 28.425o and MCL 750.234d.



    Most have cameras that clip on their belt and are the size of a bluetooth. If you had to use your firearm in self defense would you not want a video recorder after the fact to document anything that happens from the point the attacker is down? To show police response and your cooperation for them or that you where not just going on a killing rampage?

  10. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by emt232004 View Post
    Right mall ninja because I support legal oc for both pistols and long arms? Then mall ninja I be
    Lets say you walk into a store with your long gun on your back(with out being asked to leave. or disallowed from even entering all together). On your way out of the store your mugged. How are you going to get your long gun into firing position& disengage the safety in time to shoot the attacker/attacker's? Even if you can do all that and get a shot off a 223 or 5.56 at close range would pass though the BG and keep going hitting someone or something.

    THEY MAY TAKE OUR LIVES BUT THEY'LL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM!!!!!

  11. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by S&WM&P40 View Post
    Lets say you walk into a store with your long gun on your back(with out being asks to leave. Or disallowed from even entering all together). On your way out of the store your mugged. How are you going to get your long gun into firing position& disengage the safety in time to shoot the attacker/attacker's? Even if you can do all that and get a shot off a 223 or 5.56 at close range with pass though the BG and keep going hitting someone or something.
    That is why I OC a Springfield XD-40 in a serpa holster

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