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    General encounters with LEO...

    Call it my newness to carrying or inexperience around LEO while carrying, but I find myself NOT wanting to be around any LEO while armed.

    Case in point...A couple times I have pulled into a gas station to refuel while carrying concealed, although with an OWB paddle holster, shirt untucked. Every time I have waited to exit my vehicle until I SEE the officer either exit the store returning to their patrol car OR actual pulling off. Why? I'm not exactly sure. My first thought or reaction is I do not want any confrontation and just plain avoidance is obviously best.

    I know there will come a time when I'm already in a place of business and an officer enters. This scenario doesn't seem to affect me the same way. I guess because it would be apparent that I'm purchasing something or paying for fuel. I guess my "fear" is a LEO seeing me approaching while carrying (possibly imprinting) and over-reacting.

    I respect all LEO and the job they do, but I have had minor experiences with a few cocky "Holier-than-thou". Of whom just seem to take pleasure in displaying "authority". I've read many "bad LEO encounters" and I would hate to think of what might happen if these few came in contact with someone carrying legally. Am I alone here?

    Will this improve with time or am I just for being so paranoid?
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    Are you carrying concealed?

    Is the weapon still concealed? Or are you open carrying?

    When I carry concealed (doesn't matter if its shoulder, iwb, owb..etc), its concealed. Out of sight, out of mind. I have been carrying concealed for 3 years now (short time compared to a lot of people on here), and I am not hesitant if an LEO is around, because he well never know I have it unless there is a reason to defend myself.

    If you are open carrying, then I would too wait to avoid confrontation. Legal or not (depending on local laws), it makes people edgy...but thats me. A lot of people don't mind what others around them are feeling.

    In conclusion, what you are doing is fine if you are open carrying. No need to worry about that non confrontational feeling. If you are truly concealed, then the feeling will go away. If you are worried it will be visible or print, go find a better holster that you feel more confident with.

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    If it is well concealed shouldn't be a problem. I have stood next to and talked with several LEOs while armed without any issue. If they did some know they didn't say anything.

    I think when permits and citizen carry was still fairly new situations like you are worried about may have happened more often but not so much now...although not saying they still couldn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefighterchen View Post
    Is the weapon still concealed? Or are you open carrying?

    When I carry concealed (doesn't matter if its shoulder, iwb, owb..etc), its concealed. Out of sight, out of mind. I have been carrying concealed for 3 years now (short time compared to a lot of people on here), and I am not hesitant if an LEO is around, because he well never know I have it unless there is a reason to defend myself.

    If you are open carrying, then I would too wait to avoid confrontation. Legal or not (depending on local laws), it makes people edgy...but thats me. A lot of people don't mind what others around them are feeling.

    In conclusion, what you are doing is fine if you are open carrying. No need to worry about that non confrontational feeling. If you are truly concealed, then the feeling will go away. If you are worried it will be visible or print, go find a better holster that you feel more confident with.

    :-)
    Concealed, OWB, untucked tshirt. The only time I OC is at home or on the motorcycle...I start out concealed and by the time I get going, it becomes open. All of my jackets are pretty fitted and not conducive to CC. I do have a shoulder holster I have yet to wear while riding.

    A different holster is one option I'm considering.

    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallguy View Post
    If it is well concealed shouldn't be a problem. I have stood next to and talked with several LEOs while armed without any issue. If they did some know they didn't say anything.

    I think when permits and citizen carry was still fairly new situations like you are worried about may have happened more often but not so much now...although not saying they still couldn't.
    It depends on my shirts...t-shirts sometimes imprint, button downs rarely if at all.

    I'll just keep doing what I'm doing until A) the newness wears off a bit or B) get a different type holster.

    Thanks.
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    Most of the LEO's I know like the idea of CC, not sure if you are an open carry or CC state but it is pretty much a non issue with the officers I have met. In NM, open carry while fueling, officer fueling his car made a comment "what you carrying" and exchanged gun information. See Avatar Photo. Non issue.

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    I was a bit nervous when I began carrying before I got my CHL, rightly so. I mostly was carrying to and from home, not just everywhere I went. I'm comfortable with my IWB rig and wear loose enough clothing to know that no one will know that I carry.

    Even if open carry comes to Texas, I will continue to choose to conceal. I think it makes me less of a potential target for criminals and anti-gun liberals, though I'm not sure which is worse...

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    When I first started to carry many years ago I also avoided leo encounters. The problem is you never know what kind of leo yopu are going to deal with. Some are pro-gun others are anti-gun. I have experianced both. This is one of the reasons why I conceal-carry most of the time and I make sure it IS concealed. These days I go pretty much where I feel like with out being too concerned if any leo are present. If I choose to legally open-carry(or conceal-carry) and get illegally harrassed, threatened, or arrested I will file a complaint and see my lawyer. Remember the police are not all-powerful and are required to obey the law also.

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    Thanks for the replies everyone.

    MS is a CC state. There are those who OC with permit, but from my findings it's generally at home.
    My wife strongly believes in OC and we constantly debate the advantages and disadvantages...I believe mainly because of anti-gun libtards of whom she despises, but also to let anyone know she is ready, able and willing to defend herself and kids. I would rather CC just for element of surprise and not becoming a potential target.

    Santa, You are correct...You NEVER know what type of LEO you're dealing. Which is why I usually avoid them all together.
    If I'm ever noticed or questioned, I'll respectfully comply within my rights and just keep in mind that THEY are not above the law themselves.
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  11. As a LE officer currently in training I would just like to weigh in on my opinion on this matter. First of all, I work in a very liberal state MA and i live just over the boarder in NH. Hearing things from different officers from both states, i would say about 85% of most LE officers I have spoken to completely support private citizen carrying concealed. Both young and old officers. As far as a younger officer like myself dealing with someone in this situation, it would be a normal reaction for a young officer to be a little bit more on edge when a citizen says they have a firearm but myself and other officers must remember that the citizens that acctually CCW are probably the most law abiding people in the country. A lot of officers feel this is exactly the case and is why they support CCW, notice how I saw concealed though. I understand a lot of people on this forum love to OC which is completely fine but it does get people very nervous which is the opposite of what police want. Overall I fully support CCW even before me being in training and now that I am in training, and i think a lot more people should be more open to the idea of CCW because lets face it there are a lot of crazy people out there and the police cant be everywhere 24/7

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