Pima County SWAT raid: Possibly legit, but still trigger happy
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    Pima County SWAT raid: Possibly legit, but still trigger happy

    As it usually seems, it's hard to get a clear picture from the article. All they say they found was firearms and gear, nothing illegal. Firing 71 rounds at one person seems to be a bit of overkill, though he was holding an ar-15. That's 14 rounds fired per officer. If a well trained officer of the law needs 14, what's wrong with me having 17 or 33?


    Attorney: SWAT raid found guns, body armor

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    While I am not fond of LEO's , I will say the ones in Pima county go thru hell daily because of all the illegals down there.

  4. Drug prohibition is the cause of this innocent man's death.

    Even if he had drugs, so what. Possession of a substance is a victimless crime.

    Drug prohibition needs to end NOW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highline View Post
    Drug prohibition is the cause of this innocent man's death.

    Even if he had drugs, so what. Possession of a substance is a victimless crime.

    Drug prohibition needs to end NOW!
    +1 on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by father-of-three View Post
    If a well trained officer of the law needs 14, what's wrong with me having 17 or 33?
    The government MUST ensure that you run out of ammo before they do. It's for "officer safety!"
    Anyone who says, "I support the 2nd amendment, BUT"... doesn't. Element of Surprise: a mythical element that many believe has the same affect upon criminals that Kryptonite has upon Superman.

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    Not only fired 71 rounds but hit him 60 times ..... that had to be a mess
    NRA Life Member, NH CC, Gun Owners of America, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, Second Amendment Foundation
    "Remember, incoming fire has the Right of Way"

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    Just keep in mind that Kathryn Johnston ran a drug house (they even found drugs... that the cops planted) and tried to murder cops... right up until the entire conspiracy by the Atlanta PD to cover up her murder collapsed in on itself.

    And remember, those Atlanta cops had a "warrant"... which they obtained via false statements, on the basis of an imaginary "informant".

    If the Atlanta PD could "find" drugs in Kathryn Johnston's house, these guys could "find" vests and "partial" cop uniforms in the dead Marine's.

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    We had this discussion before, call my attorney and I will show up with him, kick my door in and under the castle doctrine I will defend my home. Sounds like several versions of what happened are coming from police.

  10. The police want it both ways.

    They justify the no-knock style raids as necessary to surprise people so that they cannot destroy evidence or pose a threat. At the same time, if someone defends their home from an unknown intruder who "surprises" them, the police say the person should have NOT defended their home as they SHOULD HAVE known it was the police.

    Does anyone else see the problem with this?

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    I agree several robbery attempts have been made in Houston Area with phony badge/uniform. Kick in my door will have a tactical response, while dogs are working on you.

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