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  1. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by lavaman View Post
    OC is 100% legal in KY :)
    It's great to see another Kentucky resident on here. I carry all the time and in places I can't legally carry (Post Offices, Courthouses, etc.), I just work around them. *LOL* Wal-Mart hasd never been any issue thought they were the very first place I OC'ed and they were the very first to attempt to tell me that I couldn't carry in their store. I knew better than that and helped to educate the them as to the KRS and WM's own store policy on OC in their stores. The whole encounter took only 15 minutes and resulted in them backing down from their oppressive POV.

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    You are 100% right there keycutter,an officer or LEO never has any idea what kind of situation they will be walking into next.a little respect goes along way.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by NCIC105 View Post
    I'm sure you will find very few if any police officer that will rob you! Can not be said for criminals..It sounds like you may have been caught on the other side of the line and it left a bitter taste..
    When I was a junior sailor, the only thing I owned in the whole world was a 4X4 truck. It was stolen by a theft ring that included a towing company in another county and two sheriff deputies in mine. One of those deputies located targets for the ring, took my stolen vehicle report and entered it into their computer system as a "stolen plate." When the truck was "recovered," it was considered "abandoned" because there was no stolen report on it. Those cops were allowd to resign when caught but not prosecuted. The tow truck guys went to prison. I never recovered anythig on my truck.

    A full 1% of San Diego PD officers are under felony indictment. Amazing considering the built in immunity to prosecution that the boys in blue enjoy.

    I have had 4 incidents where an out of control cop, screaming his head off, shoved a gun in my face. I have never been arrested, not even by the thugs that at first wanted to kill me. One of those times I was a stranded motorist in a very bad neighborhood in the middle of the night. I was really glad to see that cop car until the cop inside went nuts.

    Cops serve themselves and protect each other. It's the largest criminal conspiracy on the planet. They wonder why they get no respect. It's because they portray themselvs publicly as the good guys but run around acting like gangsters, thugging up on all they meet. Jesus, just take a step back and listen to cop conversation among themselves in a social setting when they think they are among friends. It's all "patrol stories" of this guy or another that they "taught a lesson to."

    Yeah, I have a bitter taste too.
    Last edited by RogDog; 02-11-2012 at 04:03 AM. Reason: added a line

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    I have CCW...carry everywhere i go, except state or fed buildings. Its called Concealed Carry, so, unless there are metal detectors who knows. Plus, you really think a person with the intent on robbing the establishment really cares...they see it as an easy hit

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    Quote Originally Posted by hurley40 View Post
    I have CCW...carry everywhere i go, except state or fed buildings. Its called Concealed Carry, so, unless there are metal detectors who knows. Plus, you really think a person with the intent on robbing the establishment really cares...they see it as an easy hit
    are you asking if a robber cares if he lives or dies?
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  7. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by RogDog View Post
    A full 1% of San Diego PD officers are under felony indictment. Amazing considering the built in immunity to prosecution that the boys in blue enjoy.


    Cops serve themselves and protect each other. It's the largest criminal conspiracy on the planet. They wonder why they get no respect. It's because they portray themselvs publicly as the good guys but run around acting like gangsters, thugging up on all they meet.
    Police also dont get any respect because of people like you making generalizations about a large group of people. As you said, 1% are under felony indictment, the other 99%, well according to you, they are all guilty too.

    Ill prove your generalization wrong right now. You said cops roll around "thugging up on all they meet". I have met several cops and have never been "thugged up". Stop stereotyping and making unfounded generalizations and stop judging a whole group based on the actions of some individuals.

    Lets apply your logic to some other group. Auto mechanics. A family member of mine had their oil changed at a dealership and they did not put new oil in after taking the old oil out, and the engine broke. Therefore, based on the actions of this auto mechanic, all auto mechanics are idiots that cannot do their job correctly. All they are looking to do is make an easy buck and take advantage of people and exercise nothing but carelessness and negligence. I hate all auto mechanics now...

    We can use your logic all day and just end up going in a circle of ignorance. Clinton and Obama were (are) bad presidents, therefore all presidents are bad.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Deserteagle View Post
    Police also dont get any respect because of people like you making generalizations about a large group of people. As you said, 1% are under felony indictment, the other 99%, well according to you, they are all guilty too.

    Ill prove your generalization wrong right now. You said cops roll around "thugging up on all they meet". I have met several cops and have never been "thugged up". Stop stereotyping and making unfounded generalizations and stop judging a whole group based on the actions of some individuals.

    Lets apply your logic to some other group. Auto mechanics. A family member of mine had their oil changed at a dealership and they did not put new oil in after taking the old oil out, and the engine broke. Therefore, based on the actions of this auto mechanic, all auto mechanics are idiots that cannot do their job correctly. All they are looking to do is make an easy buck and take advantage of people and exercise nothing but carelessness and negligence. I hate all auto mechanics now...

    We can use your logic all day and just end up going in a circle of ignorance. Clinton and Obama were (are) bad presidents, therefore all presidents are bad.
    You forgot to include the context of my post. It was a reply to a comment that no police officer would rob you. I replied with my own, very specific, first hand example of a police officer who did in fact rob me. I went on to include a very few personal anticdotes of abuse of power that I have personally suffered at the hands of Police. I have many, many more but I will save them for another day.

    I alluded to knowledge of other non-contact conversation that I have been privy to. I'll flesh that out a bit. I am an RSO. Many police officers attend events at my old club. Some are members. My son is an Eagle scout. I have spent many nights around campfires. Many police officers among the scout dad population. Both venues provide ample opportunity to participate in social conversations with them. Sailors tell sea stories, cops tell patrol stories. Both varieties tend to run to a particular form. One often involves drinking and debochery in foreign lands, the other; bragging about getting over on so and so who "deserved it." Both tend to entertaiin the target audience while offending every one else.

    Far from generalization, I have personal experience over a lifetime that colors my opiinion of a class of public servant which I believe fails to provide the service that the public pays for. Furthermore, we pay with much more than money. The net effect of excessive and over zealous policing is a substantial dimunition of our liberty. And to beat the drum a little more. 1% is substantially more felony activity than exists in the general public. Considering once again that cops don't generally mess with other cops and prosecutors generally dont't want to mess with them either and judges and the law give them wide leeway, and they are charged with upholding the law, one might have a reasonable expectation that a police force could keep their average below that of the general public. It points to a pattern of behavior that we as a society should not tolerate in our public servants.

    I believe that constitutes a rational development of a personal opinion supported by fact and experience. I remain distrustful of law enforcement, I'm too old to change that. Don't mistake my distrust for a willingness to engage them. Quite the contrary, I just go out of my way to avoid them. When contacted, I'm extreemly polite. I try like heck not to give them any information and break contact ASAP.

    I'm not suggesting that you need to share my opinion, I don't care what opinion you have of auto mechanics either. Go grovel all you wish but please withhold your orders that I share your opinion.

    This is not our thread, I appologise to the OP for the hijack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RogDog View Post
    When I was a junior sailor, the only thing I owned in the whole world was a 4X4 truck. It was stolen by a theft ring that included a towing company in another county and two sheriff deputies in mine. One of those deputies located targets for the ring, took my stolen vehicle report and entered it into their computer system as a "stolen plate." When the truck was "recovered," it was considered "abandoned" because there was no stolen report on it. Those cops were allowd to resign when caught but not prosecuted. The tow truck guys went to prison. I never recovered anythig on my truck.

    A full 1% of San Diego PD officers are under felony indictment. Amazing considering the built in immunity to prosecution that the boys in blue enjoy.

    I have had 4 incidents where an out of control cop, screaming his head off, shoved a gun in my face. I have never been arrested, not even by the thugs that at first wanted to kill me. One of those times I was a stranded motorist in a very bad neighborhood in the middle of the night. I was really glad to see that cop car until the cop inside went nuts.

    Cops serve themselves and protect each other. It's the largest criminal conspiracy on the planet. They wonder why they get no respect. It's because they portray themselvs publicly as the good guys but run around acting like gangsters, thugging up on all they meet. Jesus, just take a step back and listen to cop conversation among themselves in a social setting when they think they are among friends. It's all "patrol stories" of this guy or another that they "taught a lesson to."

    Yeah, I have a bitter taste too.
    Boy who pissed in your cereal this morning. I suppose I should leave you alone because it is very obvious that your mouth get's you in trouble. By your way of thinking 90% of all Cop's are no good, so I can't figgure out how myself and my 3 brother's all made it to retirement and all retired as sergeant's after 25 or more years on the job without any civilian complaints about us. Yea I know you will now say that we were covered for by other members of the Dept. and that would also be wrong.
    Bill Hurley Sr
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    Atlantic City Police Department
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    Just like not all cops are bad, not ever gun I encounter is loaded. However since I can't tell at a glance which is which, I follow all safety rules at all times and I treat every gun I encounter as if it is loaded.

    Likewise, I guard my rights in any police encounter I may find myself in
    See, it's mumbo jumbo like that and skinny little lizards like you thinking they the last dragon that gives Kung Fu a bad name.
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  11. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by RogDog View Post
    You forgot to include the context of my post. It was a reply to a comment that no police officer would rob you. I replied with my own, very specific, first hand example of a police officer who did in fact rob me. I went on to include a very few personal anticdotes of abuse of power that I have personally suffered at the hands of Police. I have many, many more but I will save them for another day.

    I alluded to knowledge of other non-contact conversation that I have been privy to. I'll flesh that out a bit. I am an RSO. Many police officers attend events at my old club. Some are members. My son is an Eagle scout. I have spent many nights around campfires. Many police officers among the scout dad population. Both venues provide ample opportunity to participate in social conversations with them. Sailors tell sea stories, cops tell patrol stories. Both varieties tend to run to a particular form. One often involves drinking and debochery in foreign lands, the other; bragging about getting over on so and so who "deserved it." Both tend to entertaiin the target audience while offending every one else.

    Far from generalization, I have personal experience over a lifetime that colors my opiinion of a class of public servant which I believe fails to provide the service that the public pays for. Furthermore, we pay with much more than money. The net effect of excessive and over zealous policing is a substantial dimunition of our liberty. And to beat the drum a little more. 1% is substantially more felony activity than exists in the general public. Considering once again that cops don't generally mess with other cops and prosecutors generally dont't want to mess with them either and judges and the law give them wide leeway, and they are charged with upholding the law, one might have a reasonable expectation that a police force could keep their average below that of the general public. It points to a pattern of behavior that we as a society should not tolerate in our public servants.

    I believe that constitutes a rational development of a personal opinion supported by fact and experience. I remain distrustful of law enforcement, I'm too old to change that. Don't mistake my distrust for a willingness to engage them. Quite the contrary, I just go out of my way to avoid them. When contacted, I'm extreemly polite. I try like heck not to give them any information and break contact ASAP.

    I'm not suggesting that you need to share my opinion, I don't care what opinion you have of auto mechanics either. Go grovel all you wish but please withhold your orders that I share your opinion.

    This is not our thread, I appologise to the OP for the hijack.
    You dont have much fact in here, only your opinions from your personal experiences. My person experiences have been quite pleasant. You are also continuing to make generalizations. You quote 1% of police in some department are under indictment for a crime, although being under indictment doesnt mean you are guilty. You also cannot take that number and apply it to the police across the country. You also cannot conclude that no cops are good and none are trustworthy because 1% are under indictment. Thats like saying that all Americans are filthy rich because of the top 1%

    I also do not buy your conspiracy mentality of police. There are some evil ones who will break the law for each other, and they are all over the news and all over these forums. I personally know of one cop who does not grant any special treatment to people with a badge.

    Go on having your opinion, Ill go on having mine. I for one try not to judge people before I meet them, I also try not to stereotype, and I try not to make generalizations. And if I did make a generalization, I would have to acknowledge the extreme bias in it rather than try to rationalize an irrational generalization.

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