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    Thumbs down Veteran arrested in front of his son & fellow boy scouts for "rude weapon display".

    Army Master Sgt. C.J. Grisham was on a ten-mile Boy Scout hike with his son in Texas when he was arrested and accused of “rudely displaying” his firearm. Knowing there are wild boars, coyotes, and cougars in the area, he had an AR-15 rifle slung over his shoulder and was also carrying a .45 caliber pistol, according to Fox News’ Todd Starnes.

    A “huge Constitutionalist” and prominent military blogger, Grisham has served tours in Iraq and Afghanistan throughout his 18 years in the military. He was awarded the Bronze Star with Valor for his service.

    But on the day he was arrested in mid-March, Grisham says he was treated like a “street thug.”

    He described how it all happened:

    At about the 5 mile mark of our hike, a voice behind us asked us to stop and the officer motioned for us to approach him. He got out of his car and met us a few feet later. He asked us what we were doing and I explained that we were hiking for my son’s merit badge. He then asked me what I’m doing with the rifle, to which I responded in a calm manner, “Does it matter, officer? Am I breaking the law?”

    At that point, the officer grabbed my rifle without warning or indication. He didn’t ask for my rifle and he didn’t suggest he would take it from me. He simply grabbed it. This startled me and I instantly pulled back – the rifle was attached to me – and I asked what he thought he was doing because he’s not taking my rifle. He then pulled his service pistol on me and told me to take my hands off the weapon and move to his car, which I complied with. He then slammed me into the hood of his car and I remembered I had a camera on me (one of the requirements of the hiking merit badge is to document your hikes)…Up to this point, I am not told why I am being stopped, why he tried to disarm me, or even that I’m under arrest.

    Grisham’s 15-year-old son recorded the entire incident, and the video is posted on YouTube.
    In it, you can see a handcuffed Grisham repeatedly asking what he is being detained for.

    “In this day and age people are alarmed when they see someone with what you have [a rifle],” one of the officers replies, noting that someone had called the police. “They don’t care what the law is.”

    “Do ​you​ care what the law is?” Grisham shoots back.

    The veteran continues to elicit clarification as his hands are handcuffed behind his back, asking why the officers didn’t ask him to drop the weapon instead of resorting to such drastic action.

    “I will not be in the habit of doing that for anybody with a firearm, because it’s dangerous,” one of the officers replies.

    “So just because a guy’s got a firearm he’s dangerous?” Grisham responds.

    “Yes sir,” the officer says.

    The video has even more stunning dialogue, but Grisham says he is the most upset about how his son was treated, and how the incident will shape his view of the police.

    “What a bad excuse you guys are showing for [the] police force,” Grisham says at one point.

    “Actually, it’s a bad excuse as a dad,” one of the officers replies.

    Todd Starnes has more:

    As the officers put Grisham in the back of the car, the video picked up sounds of [Grisham's son] Chris crying.

    The officers told Grisham they would take the boy home.

    “I told him not to answer any questions,” Grisham said. “I told him not to answer a single question until his mother was there — and she would answer the questions for him.”

    But that’s not what happened.

    Chris told Fox News that the police officer refused to let him out of the car until he answered a series of questions. The boy had not been arrested.

    “The officer told me that I wasn’t getting out of the patrol car until I answered his questions,” Chris said. “He said I didn’t have a choice. I was scared.”

    Grisham said his boy was traumatized by the incident.

    “Every time he sees a police officer he has a panic attack,” he said. “That’s unfortunate because we always taught our kids to respect police officers. My wife and I are angry about it.” [Emphasis added]

    Chris told Fox News that he wants to be like his dad when he grows up. “He inspires me,” he said, adding that his father “didn’t do anything wrong at all.”

    At this point, roughly a month later, Grisham says is still “100 percent confused” about why he was arrested. His charges were downgraded from resisting arrest to interfering with a peace officer while performing a duty, but he still thinks the situation is absurd and inexcusable.

    “For me, it’s a difficult turning point,” the decorated veteran said. “I wonder what it is that I’m fighting for. If our basic rights are being violated this way — what is my purpose?”

    The entire, unedited video from the scene is worth watching:

    Decorated Vet Arrested After ?Rudely Displaying? His Rifle ? and Says Officer Pulled Gun on Him in Front of Boy Scouts | Video | TheBlaze.com
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    Another incident that tells me that we should not believe that the police will not take away our guns. There are to many who will do it gleefully.

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    They did that in the great State of Texas?

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    I am sure there some good ones, but in my 51 years of life I have concluded COPS think they are above the law and you should "kiss their ring". These cops should be written up and or terminated. We are innocent until proven guilty. I u der stand they deal with less than desirable people in the job, but come on... Do any of them have any common sense?

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    The cop is lucky that Msgt. Grisham was in a good mood. Methinks those three cops would have died had he chosen to stand his ground. Looks like Grisham learned a lesson. Trust nobody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricolordad View Post
    The cop is lucky that Msgt. Grisham was in a good mood. Methinks those three cops would have died had he chosen to stand his ground. Looks like Grisham learned a lesson. Trust nobody.
    Interesting premise.
    I wonder what would be the outcome if a person did stand their ground and fired on, perhaps killed LE in a situation where the person was being threatened by LE?

    If the law is blind and LE act like thugs, then they are thugs and a person should be able to protect themself from them, even if that means resorting to lethal force.

    I have a feeling it wouldn't play out that way though.
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    I'm appalled!

    Bull sh it.

    Enough said.
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    This will cost their department dearly, nothing illegal about carrying a rifle in Texas, it did break scout regulations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallstones View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tricolordad View Post
    The cop is lucky that Msgt. Grisham was in a good mood. Methinks those three cops would have died had he chosen to stand his ground. Looks like Grisham learned a lesson. Trust nobody.
    Interesting premise.
    I wonder what would be the outcome if a person did stand their ground and fired on, perhaps killed LE in a situation where the person was being threatened by LE?

    If the law is blind and LE act like thugs, then they are thugs and a person should be able to protect themself from them, even if that means resorting to lethal force.

    I have a feeling it wouldn't play out that way though.
    IIRC, in FL at least, the SYG and Castle doctrine laws frequently note "...except for an LEO in performance of his duties...". I assume no matter how poorly and inappropriately they are being performed.
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    I hope to see a large lawsuit and an equally large settlement.
    "Beware the fury of a patient man." --John Dryden,
    British poet, critic and playwright

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