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    Quote Originally Posted by XD40scinNC View Post
    In Boston more citizens were directly terrorized in their homes at gunpoint by jackbooted cops than by the unarmed wounded 19 year old. Looks like the paramilitary training and indoctrination that citizens are the enemy has been successful in law enforcement agencies.

    I wonder how many dogs were shot by the storm troopers and illegally entered and searched homes. Even the friendliest dog will defend the home and their pack, i.e. the family. I have two labs that are friendly to a fault, but bark their head off if a stranger comes to the door. Cops seem to love shooting a dog that dare to bark at them.

    I wonder how many citizens were threatened to remain silent regarding the abuse and illegal activities of the storm troopers, and how much damage was done in entering homes.
    The answer to your question is either as many and as much as possible or not as many as you might expect. I for one, think the death toll was pretty high for dogs. Especially non aggressive breeds, like labs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Outlaw View Post
    So what would 'you' be saying if the terrorist suspect was hiding in someones private property and the citizen homeowner was the one who actually found the suspect without the help of law enforcement??..........
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    ..........~Crickets Chirping~...........

    If that homeowner was armed and had a decent set of caJones, he easily could have taken that suspect into custody without getting his valuable boat all shot up by the trigger happy gestapo imvho.
    And as it turns out, the cops riddled the boat shooting at an unarmed individual, plus 3 or 4 flash bang grenades. Flash bangs don't create shrapnel, but the over pressure and blast wave will definitely cause damage to property. Wonder if the back slapping and high 5'ing party at the Boston PD is still going on. Bragging about causing citizens to piss their pants, women and children cry, etc.
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    But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhino View Post
    "I hope they catch him", the same as I would with anyone else they're looking for without turning part of the country into a police state. You're saying we should suspend the Constitution and surrender our rights because we're searching for a terrorist. The end justifies the means and our rights are negotiable as far as you're concerned. As soon as we accept that concept as legitimate, who decides what is justified tomorrow, and under what circumstances? If you really want to live in a country where rights are so negotiable, I can suggest several of them. You wouldn't be there very long before discovering how good we have it here, and how passionately we need to protect it.
    Thank you Rhino for disinfecting the Jim Page horsepoop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimPage View Post
    So what would you be saying if they had not done what they did and the terrorist was in one of those houses?
    If they hadn't done what they did? For one thing, it would have been far more civilized if they had knocked on the door, and just asked if everything was alright, while looking for anything out of the ordinary. If the punk would have been in one of them, they would have discovered it-- without being Nazis!

    Everyone of those gestapo-esque jack-booted thugs should have been shot. I know there are arms in those private homes that should have been brought to bear on them. Yes, it would have ended up with someone getting shot, but it would also have brought to the forefront the idea that all of their rights were being violated by the thuggery.
    I don't care one whit about your pacifist mindset, Jim, you are just plain wrong about this situation.
    A real patriot/American will squawk and scream, and pull the trigger if necessary, on someone who is pointing a gun at their family and violating their rights. I will. Period.
    If that crap had taken place in my part of Texas, it would have started a darned revolution. And those Nazi-bastards would have lost.
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    Do not for one moment think that the thugs in DC and our whitehouse garbage and his cohorts did not take special notice of how this happened. I hope I am wrong and am willing to accept ridicule but this has everything to do with the end of a 2 term presidency and the end of democracy as I know it.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by whitetiger5 View Post
    I was a police officer a blockade of that big an area, is not HOT pursuit. We arrested many badguys with out stormtrooping into a person house. The police were lifting the lockdown and a home owner called on a tip. no need for the home searchs w/o consent. You can ask but remember this is America, Our son and dauthers and fathers and mothers and we the people died for the rights, If the gov turns into a police state we lose us. We are not the America who died for us.
    Shame on the cops in the video who are pointing guns at women and children who are not anywhere near the male suspect id
    for this crime. what prob cause did they have for deadly force on a women and children. They did iT look at the video.
    NO hot pursuit, wrong search w/o concent, no lawfull order at gun point!!!!!
    YES THE BADGUY had BOMBS Well no shix sherlock!! We used to be brave so much so that Americans would take a hit to keep our FREDOM!!! Freedom from search and threat of force to comply the police were not allowed to be nazies.
    We had a big war where our best died to KEEP AMERICA FREE. What is FREEDOM to you ( SHUTUP OR I PUT YOU IN JAIL.)
    OPEN your door or I WILL SHUT YOU. SWEARING at parents in front of their small kids to pull up your hands or I will kill you. PUT UP YOUR FUCxING HANDS!!! WOW SERVE n PROTECT WHO?????? a cop got some milk for a baby.
    DID HE shoot the parents and have no choice, OH no just took them out of their home at gun point, ( depends for everyone!!!!! - cause everyone shix them selfs) You know we are the best in the world at what we want to do.
    So we can outdo the german thugs at being scary. we got scarer uniforms w masks and bigger gun and black helicopter.
    dogs and we pretend we are not using force, Oh it was a lockdown we did not order you to house arrest and we did not handcuff you if we saw you on the street. We did not order you out of you home at gunpoint. We did not detain you w/o a lawfull reason just cause we want to. it made our job easyer. sorry about thearts and scarying you and detaining you and all that WE GOT OUR MAN.. JUST LIKE THE STORM TROOPERS only we did it better we are THE AMERICAN POLICE FORCE, OOPS the godfathers of our country did not want a national police force, too much power in a small few hands.
    they want the power to stay in the hands of the people. ( YES I CAN NOT SPELL OR HAVE VERY GOOD writing skills. BUT I was a US MARINE And a POLICE OFFICER and I am an American. I know our history and am very proud of it no place on earth with the law and rights we have. That we are losing!!!! I see the teacher training our kids to be sheep. ask any kid who was murphy, bastone, what president turned down becoming KING. I pray the next president says Hey we are going to make the laws and consititution stronger, keep the seperartion of power, and never again allow this shix to happen again. THIS IS WHY WE THE PEOPLE HAVE THE 2A
    I think we ought to take a look at history from people who knew how to defeat a terrorist bombing campaign, our lesson today, comes from the British of all people, during ww2 and the terrorist campaign by the Nazi's of sending flying bombs and rockets to rain down on England, official response? Go about your f'in business as if it weren't happening, go to work, go to the pub, do whatever, because if it's your time it's your time but if everyone is cowering in their home then you have handed victory to your enemy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimPage View Post
    So what would you be saying if they had not done what they did and the terrorist was in one of those houses?
    Everyone on this forum would have instantly jumped on the police for being ignorant and failing to do their job. In the eyes of the extreme anti-government folk on here, the police are wrong no matter what they do.

    I don't agree with searching houses involuntarily. But I guarantee people would be trash talking the police if another innocent family was killed by the terrorist.


    Quote Originally Posted by tricolordad View Post
    I believe that you mean to say that you are "anti douchebag." Don't worry, the cop groupies here apply liberal logic to this issue and will label you with the broad term "cop basher" even though you condemn the unjust acts of a few.

    FYI desterteagle, there's a few former LEOs on my friends list here at USA Carry. Not that you care.
    Oh gosh, your political views must be so balanced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deserteagle View Post
    Originally Posted by JimPage View Post
    So what would you be saying if they had not done what they did and the terrorist was in one of those houses?
    Everyone on this forum would have instantly jumped on the police for being ignorant and failing to do their job. In the eyes of the extreme anti-government folk on here, the police are wrong no matter what they do.

    I don't agree with searching houses involuntarily. But I guarantee people would be trash talking the police if another innocent family was killed by the terrorist.

    Originally Posted by tricolordad View Post
    I believe that you mean to say that you are "anti douchebag." Don't worry, the cop groupies here apply liberal logic to this issue and will label you with the broad term "cop basher" even though you condemn the unjust acts of a few.

    FYI desterteagle, there's a few former LEOs on my friends list here at USA Carry. Not that you care.

    Oh gosh, your political views must be so balanced.
    In reference to what I put in bold above for emphasis. What was that saying about a pot and a kettle?

    Edited to fix including the pertinent quotes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikenut View Post
    In reference to what I put in bold above for emphasis. What was that saying about a pot and a kettle?

    Edited to fix including the pertinent quotes...
    Ya, what was that saying? You really dont have a point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deserteagle View Post
    I don't agree with searching houses involuntarily. But I guarantee people would be trash talking the police if another innocent family was killed by the terrorist.
    That would be the terrorist who was injured and cowering under the tarp in a boat that was outside the Iron Curtain Zone where the thugs were violating everybody's constitutional rights, right? Pffft. Tool.

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