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  1. #11
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    Slippery slope, for sure. If the homeowners consented to the searches, then nothing wrong happened. If the homeowner did not consent, it's a violation of said homeowners rights... period.

    Was LE acting in what they thought was the best interests of the public? I'm sure they were, absolutely. Did LE do a good job finding the suspects? Yes. Did the population of MA do the right things helping to find the suspects? Yes. Do I think the LEO involved have questionable motives? Well, I wasn't there but, I wouldn't think so.

    Would I have allowed them to enter my home, if I knew the suspect was not in my home? No, I do not think I would have consented to that. If you have probable cause, getting a warrant should be easy... it doesn't take very long to get one signed by a judge either, don't give me that crap. A judge wouldv'e signed a warrant faster than you can pass gas during this situation. You want entry, get a warrant.

    I do understand the population of MA is very different than mine here though, we are southern and armed... our whole thought process is different, I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dad45acp View Post
    Interesting poll since it wasn't martial law to begin with. It has to be military action with a failure of civilian order/authority. Contrary to popular belief, LE doesn't go out every day thinking of ways to F*&ck up your day. Boston continues to wholeheartedly support their LEOs and the job they successfully completed. They were in and out and got their man. Life now goes on.
    Whoa! You mean cops don't spend all day thinking of how to violate our rights? How dare you speak such things on this forum. You are such a boot licker, blinded by your love for everything police do. You obviously just dont understand anything if you dare post something that is not anti-cop like others on this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Outlaw View Post
    It's nice to see the cop bringing the family some milk....

    Question,
    Was this kind gesture of milk delivery done 'after' they aimed deadly assault weapons at the homeowners and their loved ones?
    "Deadly assault weapons"? You sound like a typical liberal. Turn off CNN

  5. #14
    Oh??
    Well here's a little video that they must have 'forgotten' to show you on "live t.v.".

    » Shocking Footage: Americans Ordered Out Of Homes At Gunpoint By SWAT teams Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

    Got milk?
    I never saw muzzles pointed at civilians. In fact they lowered their weapons to allow safe exit from the dwelling. They were in PURSUIT. This is not necessarily a new precedent. This precedent has always existed by law for these extenuating circumstances with a culmination of public safety and pursuit designation. So many experts out there on the internet today...who would have a better suggestion on how they would have apprehended this individual? Someone who hours before assassinated a cop in his patrol car, threw explosives at cops, kicked his dying brother out of a hijacked car and subsequently ran him over and dragged his body down the road etc etc.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by The_Outlaw View Post
    Oh??
    Well here's a little video that they must have 'forgotten' to show you on "live t.v.".

    » Shocking Footage: Americans Ordered Out Of Homes At Gunpoint By SWAT teams Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

    Got milk?
    Dang how many people can live be in a house??? Scary if it is a police state. IMHO, everyone aught to file some law suits over police burtality and see how some of this plays out.

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    Lightbulb

    KNOCK KNOCK!!
    We have surrounded your house and will now forcefully enter your private property without your permission!
    NOW GET OUT WITH YOUR HANDS UP!
    NO SUDDEN MOVES OR WE WILL SHOOT YOU!
    ........
    KEEP YOUR F'NG HANDS UP!
    We will now search you, your wife and the rest of your loved ones without justification!
    Now we will search your entire house without your permission, step aside peasant!
    Check upstairs!
    OORAH!
    MOVE MOVE MOVE!!!

    .......ALL CLEAR!......

    All Clear!?
    Yes, All Clear!

    Good job men!

    Uhh... We hope that all of our firearms didn't scare your kids too much....here's some milk....all better now?



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  8. My dad was in the military later a federal agent so I grew up with a healthy respect for those in law enforcement. But what I see today concerns me greatly and leads me to believe we're just one "catastrophe" away from becoming a police state. Read the story about the Aurora, CO police department detaining 40 people while looking for a bank robbery suspect. Chief defends detaining 40 during Aurora bank robber hunt ? Aurora Sentinel One news website showed a picture of an officer pointing his riot gun at a 15 year old kid and most of the detainees were handcuffed and made to sit on the curb for 2 hours. Can you image what what might have occurred if the cops had discovered your legally carried firearm during this incident?

    Our nation was founded on the understanding that personal liberty is paramount to a free society must be protected, hence the 4th amendment. Thomas Jefferson said "Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty."

    In order to exercise liberty and to live as free people we was must allow the possibility that dangerous, unsafe and even bad things might occur. The best that we can do is teach our children well, be aware, be prepared and plan for the worst because we live in an evil world where evil people commit evil acts.

    I have not given up my right to defend myself or my family to the government or anyone else. I haven't given up my rights to be secure in my persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures. It seems many in our nation believe that bad things shouldn't happen so we must give up a little liberty in order to feel safe. If we continue on this course we will no longer be free. I agree with Thomas Jefferson who said his preference is for "dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."

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    I don't live in the city. (Thank you God!)

    But, I would probably let authorities search my barns & outbuildings. My home would be secure and they would most likely be convinced of that when they approached my door and saw my pit bulls threatening to come through the windows. If that didn't convince them that there wasn't any need to search inside my home, I'd politely tell them go on down the road; unless they had a warrant.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dad45acp View Post
    I never saw that happen...and I watched the search on live tv like everyone else.
    Maybe you should watch the dozens of cell phone videos that are now making there way to you tube.
    There are quite a few who were upset over the unwarranted intrusion into their homes.
    This was not a "hey, can we take a quick peek in your house?" search.
    People were treated as criminals as they were shouted at by police to get out of the house.
    Some are heard to say things about the searches that I can't repeat here (I'd be banned for such language).
    So much for the BS that it was welcomed by the community!
    This was a fascist, over the top violation of Constitutional Rights on a massive scale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesMorrison View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by dad45acp View Post
    I never saw that happen...and I watched the search on live tv like everyone else.
    Maybe you should watch the dozens of cell phone videos that are now making there way to you tube.
    There are quite a few who were upset over the unwarranted intrusion into their homes.
    This was not a "hey, can we take a quick peek in your house?" search.
    People were treated as criminals as they were shouted at by police to get out of the house.
    Some are heard to say things about the searches that I can't repeat here (I'd be banned for such language).
    So much for the BS that it was welcomed by the community!
    This was a fascist, over the top violation of Constitutional Rights on a massive scale.
    Damn. Release the terrorist. We need a do over huh?

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