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  1. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by dad45acp View Post
    This man was assassinated. Why would you or Charlie even try to bring up this up after he has been killed...violently? What's your point other than trying to be a tool?

    PS. Armed security with arrest powers....cop...police force. Mayyyybe why he was named as a MIT Police Officer? You're an idiot. Your facts continue to suck.
    why? because the gestapo like police tried to use the death of one of their own as a pretext for their illegal possibly actions. or are you one of the sheeple who are so glad that the government protected you from evil?

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  3. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by JimPage View Post
    I see paranoia in many contributors to this thread and LEOs performing a difficult, dangerous task well. No one was hurt other than possibly their feelings that they had to put their hands up.
    so it seems that you're ok with the deterioration of our rights, constitution smonstitution, who cares?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimPage View Post
    I see paranoia in many contributors to this thread and LEOs performing a difficult, dangerous task well. No one was hurt other than possibly their feelings that they had to put their hands up.
    It was a difficult task to set out from Boston in search of illegal weaponry and the conditions weren't always favorable. The situation was complicated by the fact that those searching didn't know the extent of the weaponry that they might find or that might even be used against them. They also couldn't be sure if others besides those already identified were the only threat to consider. Theoretically, the occupant of any house could be a potential opponent. And once initial contact had been made, they had no way of knowing if the two days of gun battles really were the end of it all. In the grand scheme of things, I'm sure they didn't see it as the end at all. So I'm sure I can see how they felt that performing a difficult, dangerous task well where no one was hurt, other than possibly their feelings hurt, could be seen as a good thing, and an honorable thing to boot. I can also see how many viewing things in the heat of the moment or in the initial days after might consider criticisms of their conduct to be somewhat paranoid. But history has shown that not to be the case at all. You see, the two day search out of Boston I'm referring to happened 238 years ago, almost to the day. The people searching for illegal weapons were British soldiers out of Boston. One of the people spreading the word was Paul Revere. You may have heard of him. Those soldiers were just as convinced of the legality and righteousness of their searches then as you are of the searches last week. But does being convinced of it make it right? Does being convinced make it legal? Ethical? Moral? No, not really. Certainly not necessarily. It didn't then and it doesn't now.
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    The colonists weren't paranoid because they thought the heavy handed tactics of the British were wrong. Opposing those same heavy handed tactics by modern day law enforcement would not in any way make a person paranoid. On the contrary, it would make them far more sane than someone willing to simply overlook such activity, particularly if that activity was illegal. And anyone suggesting that illegal or unethical activity by law enforcement should be ignored as long as no one got hurt, is a doormat, and really shouldn't be slinging mental health terms at others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deserteagle View Post
    "Deadly assault weapons"? You sound like a typical liberal. Turn off CNN
    Your last two posts are a good example of the pot calling the kettle black.

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    Some will say it was not technically martial law...BUT they ordered all law-abiding citizens to remain indoors. You can point at a car and try to tell me that it's not a car, but it's not going to fool me.

    There was a better answer. Call out the militia! You do that a few times, terrorists will cease to attack us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedbump View Post
    Won't be long before gun toting agencies here at home outnumber the Military... or do they already?

    Nay!
    And WE will always outnumber them, which is why they are testing us. This is like the recon phase before an assault. They already know the west coast is ripe for the taking, with Seattle under DHS control (DHS marked police cars respond to domestic disturbances) but they need to test the rest of us. Boston demonstrated that the east coast is remarkably complacent, which is sad because Boston historically has contributed many volunteers during times of war.

    They need to take our guns to tilt the odds in their favor. As it is, they don't stand a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimPage View Post
    I see paranoia in many contributors to this thread and LEOs performing a difficult, dangerous task well. No one was hurt other than possibly their feelings that they had to put their hands up.
    Paranoia is not complaining that citizens Rights were suspended to find one person.

    Paranoia is ACCEPTING that citizens Rights should be suspended to find one person.
    You can have good intentions and not be right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhino View Post
    It was a difficult task to set out from Boston in search of illegal weaponry and the conditions weren't always favorable. The situation was complicated by the fact that those searching didn't know the extent of the weaponry that they might find or that might even be used against them. They also couldn't be sure if others besides those already identified were the only threat to consider. Theoretically, the occupant of any house could be a potential opponent. And once initial contact had been made, they had no way of knowing if the two days of gun battles really were the end of it all. In the grand scheme of things, I'm sure they didn't see it as the end at all. So I'm sure I can see how they felt that performing a difficult, dangerous task well where no one was hurt, other than possibly their feelings hurt, could be seen as a good thing, and an honorable thing to boot. I can also see how many viewing things in the heat of the moment or in the initial days after might consider criticisms of their conduct to be somewhat paranoid. But history has shown that not to be the case at all. You see, the two day search out of Boston I'm referring to happened 238 years ago, almost to the day. The people searching for illegal weapons were British soldiers out of Boston. One of the people spreading the word was Paul Revere. You may have heard of him. Those soldiers were just as convinced of the legality and righteousness of their searches then as you are of the searches last week. But does being convinced of it make it right? Does being convinced make it legal? Ethical? Moral? No, not really. Certainly not necessarily. It didn't then and it doesn't now.
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    The colonists weren't paranoid because they thought the heavy handed tactics of the British were wrong. Opposing those same heavy handed tactics by modern day law enforcement would not in any way make a person paranoid. On the contrary, it would make them far more sane than someone willing to simply overlook such activity, particularly if that activity was illegal. And anyone suggesting that illegal or unethical activity by law enforcement should be ignored as long as no one got hurt, is a doormat, and really shouldn't be slinging mental health terms at others.
    You are correct sir!
    Fascist's are Magicians...They can make our Property, our Freedom's & even our Children 'Disappear'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Outlaw View Post
    KNOCK KNOCK!!
    We have surrounded your house and will now forcefully enter your private property without your permission!
    NOW GET OUT WITH YOUR HANDS UP!
    NO SUDDEN MOVES OR WE WILL SHOOT YOU!
    ........
    KEEP YOUR F'NG HANDS UP!
    We will now search you, your wife and the rest of your loved ones without justification!
    Now we will search your entire house without your permission, step aside peasant!
    Check upstairs!
    OORAH!
    MOVE MOVE MOVE!!!

    .......ALL CLEAR!......

    All Clear!?
    Yes, All Clear!

    Good job men!

    Uhh... We hope that all of our firearms didn't scare your kids too much....here's some milk....all better now?


    Ummmmm...yes?

    Hey bro, did you check out their sweet looking daughter?
    Yeah bro, she's a real hotty.
    ^^This is pretty much what was happening in Boston^^
    And no, I'm not really exaggerating things....

    If you as an American Citizen don't see any problem with this type of behaviour from OUR Law ENFORCEMENT officers, then you are pretty confused about what our God given Constitutional Rights truly stand for imvho.
    Fascist's are Magicians...They can make our Property, our Freedom's & even our Children 'Disappear'.
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