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    Imagine that. A 20block radius in lockdown, SWAT, the National Guard, hundreds of cops, helicopters, MRAPS, Humvees, etc. and the perp was OUTSIDE of the perimeter!

    Families forced from their homes (yes, FORCED) schools closed, business's closed, "voluntary lockdown", airspace shutdown and all for what?

    The perp was outside of the perimeter and was "caught" by an alert citizen going out back of his house for a smoke!

    All in all it was a successful event don't you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by apvbguy View Post
    fixed your post and please not that the way the bad guy was found was when the questionable martial law like atmosphere was abandoned and people were free to go about their business unimpeded by storm trooper like cops and army personnel on their streets and on their property
    I strongly resent you "fixing" my post!!!!!!!!!! Comment however you wish, but NEVER CHANGE MY POSTS
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimPage View Post
    I strongly thank you for "fixing" my post!!!!!!!!!! Comment however you wish, but ALWAYS CHANGE MY POSTS
    There ya go... I fixed that one for you too!

    You can "thank me" later!

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    Furious at people fixing his posts...Ok with family ordered out of home at gunpoint.

    Boston PD salutes you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkuisi8mo View Post
    "There's a reason you separate the Military and the Police. One fights the enemy of the State and the other serves and protects the People. When the Military becomes both, then the enemies of the State tend to become the People." - Admiral William Adama, Battlestar Gallactica

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    Believe this ass hole is pointing a rifle at an innocent civilians home.

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    Entering my home without a warrant will get you two attack trained dogs, they don't read anyway, and a tactical response. Yep I would lose and be outnumbered but there would be a tactical response, no body armor on legs, or face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Totidem Verbis View Post
    Martial law is usually imposed on a temporary basis when the civilian government or civilian authorities fail to function effectively e.g., extensive riots and protests, or when the disobedience of the law becomes widespread.

    So,you imprision the many to capture the one... Or was this an excuse to run a drill disguised as a man hunt?
    Agree, here in Texas a couple of Texas Rangers could have handled this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhino View Post
    It was a difficult task to set out from Boston in search of illegal weaponry and the conditions weren't always favorable. The situation was complicated by the fact that those searching didn't know the extent of the weaponry that they might find or that might even be used against them. They also couldn't be sure if others besides those already identified were the only threat to consider. Theoretically, the occupant of any house could be a potential opponent. And once initial contact had been made, they had no way of knowing if the two days of gun battles really were the end of it all. In the grand scheme of things, I'm sure they didn't see it as the end at all. So I'm sure I can see how they felt that performing a difficult, dangerous task well where no one was hurt, other than possibly their feelings hurt, could be seen as a good thing, and an honorable thing to boot. I can also see how many viewing things in the heat of the moment or in the initial days after might consider criticisms of their conduct to be somewhat paranoid. But history has shown that not to be the case at all. You see, the two day search out of Boston I'm referring to happened 238 years ago, almost to the day. The people searching for illegal weapons were British soldiers out of Boston. One of the people spreading the word was Paul Revere. You may have heard of him. Those soldiers were just as convinced of the legality and righteousness of their searches then as you are of the searches last week. But does being convinced of it make it right? Does being convinced make it legal? Ethical? Moral? No, not really. Certainly not necessarily. It didn't then and it doesn't now.
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    The colonists weren't paranoid because they thought the heavy handed tactics of the British were wrong. Opposing those same heavy handed tactics by modern day law enforcement would not in any way make a person paranoid. On the contrary, it would make them far more sane than someone willing to simply overlook such activity, particularly if that activity was illegal. And anyone suggesting that illegal or unethical activity by law enforcement should be ignored as long as no one got hurt, is a doormat, and really shouldn't be slinging mental health terms at others.
    OH MY GOODNESS! THANK YOU! I really thought I was the only one who got the irony of the date and place of the King George III/General Cornwallis-style RAID on the Boston area last Friday. It was such a perfect juxtaposition between Patriots of yesteryear and Patriots of today. Yesteryear our Patriots fought for their lives to create a set of laws that protected individual liberty, and today's Patriots, if there were any in Watertown that day, would have had to risk their lives to keep men sworn to uphold those same laws from violating their individual freedoms! And the cops and/or cop-fans in this thread can't even see it at all. They cavalierly scoff at the notion even. Unreal.

    So many people let April 19 go by year after year without acknowledging the date or place, the people, the Patriot's mindset that should be given the heartfelt reverence from a grateful nation. Instead, a forgetful nation applauded while storm-troopers stole the sanctity of every "free" citizen's home they came in contact with in the name of "security." Any cop or cop-fan who can untangle the pretzel logic that says people are being "protected" by stealing the one and only thing they're born already owning, their rights, then you're a smarter man than me. Either that, or you're just as twisted as that "logic" is.

    Anyway, great, GREAT post Rhino. Thanks for it.
    No one has ever heard me say that I "hate" cops, because I don't. This is why I will never trust one again though: You just never know...

  10. #89
    Americans are a bunch of raging pansies, a single 19 year old, no military or law enforcement training, unarmed and wounded shuts down a major city, and citizens do their best imitation of surrender monkeys handing over their constitutional rights cause their depends were soaked to capacity.

    The past 12 years of fear training by the government has been a raging success. Land of the free and home of the brave, my @ss
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    But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg

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    Quote Originally Posted by pheaton View Post
    I can't help but ask. Why was the family convinced that they didn't have the freedom to go get their own milk?
    IGNORANCE is the answer.
    I live in Buffalo. Occasionally we get snow to the point they shut down the city and say no unnecessary travel is allowed. I still go out an do what i consider necessary.
    Tolerance of the intolerant leads to the destruction of tolerance. “You are also reminded that any inappropriate remarks or jokes concerning security may result in your arrest,” in the land of the free.

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