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    I was pulled over a couple weeknights ago on my way home from work. I work second shift. I got pulled over just a couple miles from home. Police officer takes my DL and ins. Takes quite a while, computer must have been slow. The officer comes back and explains the situation about my broken tail light. I told him I slipped on the ice a short while back and hit a baricade, just hadn't had a chance to fix it. He says just get it fixed and starts to let me go. Just before he walks away he asks me if I am going to get my CCW permit renewed. I said yes, just waiting on an original of my birth certificate, state laws changed here. He says, "right on." and have a good nite.
    As I was on my way home, and tired, I had completely forgotted about my carry piece in my EDC bag. He never asked if I had a weapon in the vehicle or anything. I know a few PD and Sherrifs officers in the area, and along with a few times being pulled over for speeding, never ticketed, none have ever shown a concern about my permit or weather or not I was carrying. Not sure if all of Missouri is like this or just the Springfield area, but LEO's in our area are pretty laid back about weapons, CCW's or not.

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  3. YOU MUST BE WELL KNOWN OR WELL LIKED ! ! ! i was always trained when pulled over the first thing you say to officer is "I AM LEGALLY LICENCED TO CARRY A FIRE ARM AND IT IS _______________" than let them decide what to do .................................................. .......

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    Good on ya, wish all the LEO's were as sharp as this one. We have no paperwork here as we have 'constitutional carry', so I've found the best thing to do is to keep hands on the wheel, and inform the officer that I'm carrying and what should I do next. Most are respectful, and don't give any hassle, most say "thank you for letting me know". Minimizes the 'surprise factor'.

  5. I was one of the first to get my CCW in Christian county. I think Missouri now has the best, one of the most nationally reconinized CCW.

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    I haven't been "pulled over" in quite some time now. The last I was "speaking with" an Idaho LEO, I did as mentioned above:

    Kept my hands on the wheel.
    Spoke respectfully to the officer.
    Made no quick, jerky movements.
    Remained calm. (I'm actually surprised by people when they say they don't like talking to cops. Why is that? Cops are great and they have VERY interesting stories to tell.)
    If they ask me for "license, registration, and proof of insurance" or whatever, BEFORE I move my hands, I calmly and clearly state, "I am legally carrying a concealed weapon and have my CCW in my wallet. My wallet is in my back, left pocket, and my weapon is on my right hip at approximately 4 o'clock."

    After I make these statements, I then ask the officer, "Do I have your permission to move my hands and shift position to obtain my wallet?"

    At this point, the officer generally looks amused, smiles, and says, "Go ahead" or something similar. Sometimes the officer laughs and says, "I've never heard it announced that way before. What's your carry-gun?" That leads to an entirely different conversation, but you get the idea.

    You get what you give in any situation. Act and speak respectfully, and you'll receive the same. Act like a knucklehead and your night will end badly.

    BTW, I am the son of a retired California Highway Patrolman and I was a CHP Cadet until my back gave out during training at the CHP Academy. Maybe my experiences with LEO are different, but that's we share things like this with the community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barrygray0 View Post
    YOU MUST BE WELL KNOWN OR WELL LIKED ! ! ! i was always trained when pulled over the first thing you say to officer is "I AM LEGALLY LICENCED TO CARRY A FIRE ARM AND IT IS _______________" than let them decide what to do .................................................. .......
    I was trained the same way until I had a routine traffic stop. I said something very similar to what you said and the cop looked at me and asked if I was planning on using it on him. I laughed and said "no" then he said, "then why did you mention it".

    From that point on, unless I'm in a state that requires me to inform, I don't.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote."
    ~ Benjamin Franklin (maybe)

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    Quote Originally Posted by barrygray0 View Post
    YOU MUST BE WELL KNOWN OR WELL LIKED ! ! ! i was always trained when pulled over the first thing you say to officer is "I AM LEGALLY LICENCED TO CARRY A FIRE ARM AND IT IS _______________" than let them decide what to do .................................................. .......
    this has been discussed to death in other threads and I don't want to ignite any wars but it has to be said that many people do not share your views on this. The only time I would inform that I was carrying is if I was in a state the requires informing the officer. YMMV

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozarkgunner View Post
    I was pulled over a couple weeknights ago on my way home from work. I work second shift. I got pulled over just a couple miles from home. Police officer takes my DL and ins. Takes quite a while, computer must have been slow. The officer comes back and explains the situation about my broken tail light. I told him I slipped on the ice a short while back and hit a baricade, just hadn't had a chance to fix it. He says just get it fixed and starts to let me go. Just before he walks away he asks me if I am going to get my CCW permit renewed. I said yes, just waiting on an original of my birth certificate, state laws changed here. He says, "right on." and have a good nite.
    As I was on my way home, and tired, I had completely forgotted about my carry piece in my EDC bag. He never asked if I had a weapon in the vehicle or anything. I know a few PD and Sherrifs officers in the area, and along with a few times being pulled over for speeding, never ticketed, none have ever shown a concern about my permit or weather or not I was carrying. Not sure if all of Missouri is like this or just the Springfield area, but LEO's in our area are pretty laid back about weapons, CCW's or not.
    All I will say is that you have been very lucky not receiving any tickets. But remember, don't let these incidents give you a false sense of security.
    It's not a good idea to break the speed limit, and you should keep your vehicles operating lights in working order, and leaving a weapon in your vehicle, unattended
    is never a good idea.
    If you are stopped by the wrong guy things might not work out as they have in the past. Glad to hear you have respect for police officers, it can be a difficult
    and dangerous job, and yes, cops like to be treated like human beings , and in return they usually will respond the same.

  10. you are lucky here

    Here in Ohio there is a sheriff (and ex-Marine) that when he knows you have a ccw, when he pulls you over he deliberately interrupts you so that you cant tell him you have your ccw and gun. And when you finally tell him he starts screeming in your face and threatening to kill you for NOT Telling him! I say it is deliberate on his part because, in Ohio when you have a ccw, and they run your vehicle lic plate, a red flag pops up and informs the officer about your ccw status. I know this sheriff does this because he was caught on dash cam doing this a ccw motorist. He even goes on to tell the motorist that he doesnt believe civilian should be allowed to own guns! SO this punk sheriff on the Akron-Canton sheriffs dept knew this guy had a ccw and was trying to goad him into a confrontation. Now while this guy is no longer on the A-C sheriff's dept, the Patrolman's union got him a job on another Ohio Sheriff's dept. This punk should never be allowed to have a badge ever, at all! And he is an embarrassment to the Marine Corps. What's really sad for the police and law enforcement is they dont get that WE the Lic CCW's, we are really their FIRST BEST BACKUP! If Sh** hits the fan and there back isnt there yet, but you or I am, that makes us there best BackUp! Period! And to be honest, since they put this jack ass back on the force somewhere her in Ohio, being there back up is now something I may think twice about. Maybe I'll just be a witness at the thug's murder trial, or maybe as the sh** goes down, I'll just turn my back and walk away. After all if I get involved and pull my firearm, and use it, I'll probably be arrested in the interim period til they decide weather to prosecute me or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by ozarkgunner View Post
    I was pulled over a couple weeknights ago on my way home from work. I work second shift. I got pulled over just a couple miles from home. Police officer takes my DL and ins. Takes quite a while, computer must have been slow. The officer comes back and explains the situation about my broken tail light. I told him I slipped on the ice a short while back and hit a baricade, just hadn't had a chance to fix it. He says just get it fixed and starts to let me go. Just before he walks away he asks me if I am going to get my CCW permit renewed. I said yes, just waiting on an original of my birth certificate, state laws changed here. He says, "right on." and have a good nite.
    As I was on my way home, and tired, I had completely forgotted about my carry piece in my EDC bag. He never asked if I had a weapon in the vehicle or anything. I know a few PD and Sherrifs officers in the area, and along with a few times being pulled over for speeding, never ticketed, none have ever shown a concern about my permit or weather or not I was carrying. Not sure if all of Missouri is like this or just the Springfield area, but LEO's in our area are pretty laid back about weapons, CCW's or not.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by apvbguy View Post
    this has been discussed to death in other threads and I don't want to ignite any wars but it has to be said that many people do not share your views on this. The only time I would inform that I was carrying is if I was in a state the requires informing the officer. YMMV
    Agree!! Just because you have a CCW does not mean you are carrying concealed at that moment and if I am and they ask me to get out of the vehicle then maybe?

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