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  1. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by BC1 View Post
    Not obviously. NOGODS is an attorney.
    Then he is the one who should be persecuted (not misspelled). :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by XD40scinNC View Post
    But they are never challenged until someone breaks the law. Look at all the case laws, it is almost always 'government' vs. 'Joe Citizen'

    DC vs. Heller
    Florida vs. J.L.
    Bailey vs. U.S.
    Terry vs. Ohio
    and hundreds more
    you have confused criminal prosecutions with civil challenges to laws, all those challenges resulted from prosecutions

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    Quote Originally Posted by nogods View Post
    I agree that the 7 limit is stupid. But it is the law. I've heard lots of blowhards claim how they will not follow the law. If you won't follow the law, then you are a criminal who shouldn't own a firearm.
    Try telling that to all of those criminals in the white house and in congress.
    They break the laws of our Constitution almost 'daily' and nobody is arresting them!

    Some of these so called 'laws' are just too damn stupid and unjust to even be followed imvho.

    When I lived in Los Angeles for 'many' years, it was 'illegal' to carry a sidearm without a CCW, yet it is pretty much impossible for the 'average law abiding citizen' to even get a CCW. At the same time thousands of violent gang members and even illegal alien gang members were (and still are) carrying firearms and terrorizing Joe Citizen 'at will' every day & night!

    While minding my own business and living my life in Los Angeles, I have been caught in the middle of a few incidents on the streets where I easily could have been victimized/killed if it were not for my trusty sidearm.

    Call me a blowhard if you want to, but I'm still alive and in one piece today because of my own personal sidearm's, not because of 'the Law', the law was never there when I needed it to protect me in those dark moments.
    And I have never been arrested, Do you want to know why?
    Because I never ever went out 'looking for trouble'...That's why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apvbguy View Post
    Taking the law into your own hands, deciding on your own which law to follow and which law to ignore is not the way to do things and could get you into a heap of trouble.
    That, in a nutshell, is the story of my life..



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    Here is a quote from a blog I read that fits in with this "conversation" we are having:

    When a law is silly, good people may break it; when a law is wrong, good people have to.

    I wouldn't tell you what to do, beyond telling you that you probably already know the right thing to do. I will tell you that if I see you breaking silly laws without hurting anyone or their property, I will respect you. But if I see you breaking, or even openly defying, bad laws, I will consider you a true hero.

    Look at how many heroes from the past are heroes because they broke and defied bad laws. Rosa Parks and Henry David Thoreau come to mind. How many heroes from the past do we look up to strictly because they obeyed laws? I can't think of any right now.

    The law only deserves respect as long as it is respectable. "Laws" which attempt to control or regulate things other than theft, aggression, or damaging or trespassing on privately owned property do not deserve respect. In fact, they deserve contempt.

    This also means that anyone I see enforcing silly laws is someone I have no respect for, and anyone I see enforcing bad laws I see as the enemy of everything America was supposed to be, and an enemy of liberty and decency.

    No excuses involving "the will of the majority" or "just doing my job" hold any water. And any claims of "upholding my oath" are worse than pointless when your interpretation of your oath requires you to do wrong.

    This doesn't mean it's always nice to break all silly "laws". Some behaviors are just not polite, regardless of the law. It isn't always smart to do everything you have a right to do. You need to look at unintended consequences that can result. Of course, this applies to proposing and enforcing "laws" too.

    This profusion of "laws" has caused a condition I call "law pollution". It has been estimated by attorney Harvey A. Silverglate, a civil liberties advocate who has researched the issue, that each and every one of us commits at least three felonies every day; usually without knowing it or having any ill-intent. That's hilarious.

    When everyone is some sort of a criminal it means the laws are wrong; not that everyone is bad.

    If I were inclined to give you advice I would say "do what's right, and don't worry about what's legal". Come to think of it, that's the same advice a retired deputy sheriff once gave me.

    Here is the link to the actual article from Kent McManigal:

    Kent's "Hooligan Libertarian" Blog

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Outlaw View Post
    And I have never been arrested, Do you want to know why?
    Because I never ever went out 'looking for trouble'...That's why.
    That's no guarantee of not being arrested. Sometimes, trouble deliberately comes looking for you. Ask me how I know.
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    Don't retreat. Just reload.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apvbguy View Post
    you have confused criminal prosecutions with civil challenges to laws, all those challenges resulted from prosecutions
    And would not have occurred if someone had not challenged the law by breaking the law.
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    But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg

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    Let me ask all these people that think we ALWAYS HAVE TO FOLLOW THE "LAW" a question.........

    IF Tomorrow YOUR STATE passed a "Law" that says that ALL CCW Permit holders are REQUIRED (by law now, remember?) to have a locked trigger lock on their carry piece (gun) any time they decide to go armed in public, are YOU going to follow that "Law"?

    (in other words, you would need to go hide somewhere, take out your key from wherever you have it and unlock your trigger BEFORE you can use your gun)

    You are lying stacks of crap if you say you would follow that type of "law" and you know it.... Now do us all a favor and go back to your liberal utopia and stop giving those of us that live in the real world a hard time about being realistic...

  10. #149
    Quote Originally Posted by apvbguy View Post
    Taking the law into your own hands, deciding on your own which law to follow and which law to ignore is not the way to do things and could get you into a heap of trouble.
    Oh!, so you have never crossed against the light, exceeded the speed limit, failed to come to a complete stop, nor engaged in any of the carnal pleasures that I'm sure are outlawed in your state, as they are in mine.
    “Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things.
    But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.” ― Steven Weinberg

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    I think you are all missing the point. I never said don't break the law I said very distinctly if you do break the law be prepared for the consequences.

    I’m going to use accidental felon as an example again, he decided that Chicago’s gun laws were unconstitutional and that he had a God given duty to disobey them.

    If you believe his story he ran into the perfect storm and got caught carrying illegally in Illinois and was convicted and became (as his screen name suggests) a convicted felon.

    He then showed up here and spent a few months whining about how unfair it was that he got caught intentional breaking a law.

    Not surprisingly he got little sympathy
    See, it's mumbo jumbo like that and skinny little lizards like you thinking they the last dragon that gives Kung Fu a bad name.
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