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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigcarlover View Post
    So in your opinion, at what point does round count become unconstitutional? One round? No wait, that's still a round, so must be ok. Zero? You still have a firearm.
    Well. You tell me. How many rounds do you think the constitution says you can have? What arms can you bear? Should all Americans be free to walk the streets slinging an AR and OC handgun and 100 rounds? Missile launcher? RPG's? Is that OK for the ghetto rats too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrs View Post
    From BC1: "This law was enacted January 15, 2013 and took affect April 15, 2013. He should have known. Ignorance of the law is not a defense."
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    THIS P.O.S. LAW WAS PASSED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, WITHOUT MEETING NY'S "CONSTITUTIONAL" REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE IT WAS AN "EMERGENCY!!!!
    Yes, passage of this "law" (I use that term lightly) took place without time for exposure to the public, time for our elected 'representatives' (I also use that term lightly) to actually read the legislation, digest it, and make a reasoned (not emotional) decision on how to vote..
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    First.... lets look at the "emergency"... this was passed without Constitutional requirements because it was an emergency....SO WHY DID IT BECOME EFFECTIVE 90 DAYS LATER??? If it was an emergency, why was it not effective immediately???

    Next... if our legislators actually looked at the "law" and thought reasonably about its place and where it stands in the 'grand scheme', they would have realized how ridiculous their reasoning really is... in New York State, having that 8th round in the magazine is now a MORE SERIOUS offense than CHILD MOLESTATION!!!

    ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? Any and all of the legislators, if asked during the 3 day Constitutional review period, would have at least had to answer that question.... is an 8th round actually worse than Child Molestation?
    The point you make is exactly the issue here. Why did our legislators vote to approve a law they had no time to review. They are the ones who should be held responsible. They're acting like Pelosi did with Obamacare.
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    Regarding the offense being worse than child molestation, that's completely incorrect. Child molestation is a felony at any level. See NYS Penal Law Article 130 and Article 260.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BC1 View Post
    The bearing of arms is not infringed. Carry another mag, that's all.
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    Every right enumerated in the constitution is infringed regularly. You especially have no first amendment rights to free speech. Our fourth amendment rights are violated regularly. And in some states a convicted felon has lost the right to vote. In fact the original constitution, in it's strict construction form, was written by white males to benefit white males. Women couldn't vote. People could be enslaved.
    BZZZZZZZZ Wrong!

    The bearing of arms has most definately been infringed.....if you don't see that, then you are either blind, biased or punch drunk. (or all of the above)

    You are starting to sound more and more like a Socialist from your posts imvho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Outlaw View Post
    BZZZZZZZZ Wrong!

    The bearing of arms has most definately been infringed.....if you don't see that, then you are blind or punch drunk.

    You are starting to sound more and more like a Socialist from your posts imvho.
    You mean I'm sounding like a liberal. Socialism is something completely different. I'm not condoning the action. I'm just making a point of argument. The police aren't targeting people. The guy was a dope. I believe the law may get overturned but my attorney friends all agree that it isn't a constitutional violation. Supreme court would not entertain this case as the Heller decision settled the matter citing that certain restrictions can be placed on the possession of guns provided it doesn't render the gun unusable or result in a complete ban. We may, in lay terms, have an opinion of what each amendment means but the actual meaning is what the Supreme Court decides. All law is subject to interpretation. In case you haven't noticed, you've lost a number of constitutional rights. I believe that one day, perhaps not in our lifetime, gun rights will be gone forever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tricolordad View Post
    Now, what is it that people were saying about cops not enforcing the magazine limit?
    Many of them will not enforce it. Many of them will.

    Many of them actually support your right to bear arms just as much as you do, even as you continually disrespect them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deserteagle View Post
    Many of them will not enforce it. Many of them will.

    Many of them actually support your right to bear arms just as much as you do, even as you continually disrespect them.
    Yes, but many of them do not support our right to bear arms....and a good percentage of them continually disrespect us citizen taxpayers also. Respect is a two way street.

    We have far too many of these 'hot dog's with badges' running around out there.
    The law enforcement community needs to do a better job of weeding the bad apples out of these powerful positions imvho.
    And no, a 5 day suspension is not good enough....some of these punks -w- badges need to be fired or even locked up in some cases.

    Case in point....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01Gzl5NW6is
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    many of you need to look at the heller decision, in short it say reasonable restrictions can be imposed on gun ownership. one big gaping issue that was not addressed is just what is a reasonable restriction

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distri...mbia_v._Heller

    here is an important excerpt
    2) Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited.

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    Man arrested for having '2 extra bullets' in his sidearm's magazine.

    Quote Originally Posted by BC1 View Post
    The bearing of arms is not infringed. Carry another mag, that's all.
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    Every right enumerated in the constitution is infringed regularly. You especially have no first amendment rights to free speech. Our fourth amendment rights are violated regularly. And in some states a convicted felon has lost the right to vote. In fact the original constitution, in it's strict construction form, was written by white males to benefit white males. Women couldn't vote. People could be enslaved.
    You are correct that our rights are infringed daily.
    Until people wake up and put a stop to it, it will continue.
    That does not make it legal though.



    Quote Originally Posted by BC1 View Post
    Well. You tell me. How many rounds do you think the constitution says you can have? What arms can you bear? Should all Americans be free to walk the streets slinging an AR and OC handgun and 100 rounds? Missile launcher? RPG's? Is that OK for the ghetto rats too?
    I believe that you should be allowed to own any weapon you can afford, uninfringed or burdened by government over sight.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BC1 View Post
    You mean I'm sounding like a liberal. Socialism is something completely different. I'm not condoning the action. I'm just making a point of argument. The police aren't targeting people. The guy was a dope. I believe the law may get overturned but my attorney friends all agree that it isn't a constitutional violation. Supreme court would not entertain this case as the Heller decision settled the matter citing that certain restrictions can be placed on the possession of guns provided it doesn't render the gun unusable or result in a complete ban. We may, in lay terms, have an opinion of what each amendment means but the actual meaning is what the Supreme Court decides. All law is subject to interpretation. In case you haven't noticed, you've lost a number of constitutional rights. I believe that one day, perhaps not in our lifetime, gun rights will be gone forever.
    Maybe it's time we went after SCOTUS for allowing an infringement on a god given right.



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    Quote Originally Posted by apvbguy View Post
    many of you need to look at the heller decision, in short it say reasonable restrictions can be imposed on gun ownership. one big gaping issue that was not addressed is just what is a reasonable restriction

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distri...mbia_v._Heller

    here is an important excerpt
    2) Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited.
    Seems to me that "Shall not be infringed" doesn't place limitations on that right.
    When it was written, men owned cannons, ships with cannons on them. You would think they would want to "limit" that ability for some "wacko" to sail up the coast and blow **** up, no?


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