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  1. ihope the police only had 7 rounds also we dont want them arresting each other

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesMorrison View Post
    Seems to me that "Shall not be infringed" doesn't place limitations on that right.
    sir. you may be 100% correct but the supreme court has issued it's ruling and it currently stands as the law of the land.
    it is a far from perfect ruling but until it is challenged and or clarified it is what we have to deal with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apvbguy View Post
    sir. you may be 100% correct but the supreme court has issued it's ruling and it currently stands as the law of the land.
    it is a far from perfect ruling but until it is challenged and or clarified it is what we have to deal with.
    Then I say.... It's time to challenge it!
    No court of the land has the authority to diminish the rights affirmed by the constitution.
    Just because SCOTUS has ruled, it doesn't make it legal or correct.
    Damn it people, make some noise and let's get the ball rolling!


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  5. Pinko commies didn't die with the Berlin wall, they are still alive and well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Outlaw View Post
    Yes, but many of them do not support our right to bear arms....and a good percentage of them continually disrespect us citizen taxpayers also. Respect is a two way street.

    We have far too many of these 'hot dog's with badges' running around out there.
    The law enforcement community needs to do a better job of weeding the bad apples out of these powerful positions imvho.
    And no, a 5 day suspension is not good enough....some of these punks -w- badges need to be fired or even locked up in some cases.

    Case in point....

    Out Of Control Cops - YouTube
    I agree that there are a lot who disrespect us citizens. And we need to weed them out. I just do not agree with the general LE bashing which is directed at law enforcement as a whole rather than the ones who deserve the bashing.

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    Article 3 Section 1 of the US Constitution
    The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behavior, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services a Compensation which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.

    We can kick them out at any time.

  8. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Deserteagle View Post
    I agree with you in that in my opinion, the magazine limit is unconstitutional. But we as individuals are not the ones who have the power to determine what is and is not constitutional. The courts do. We cannot make our own decisions on the constitutionality of a law and then justify breaking it without consequence.
    Hopefully one of these cases out of NY will go to court because it is (in my opinion) an infringement upon our right to bear arms that "shall not be infringed".
    The outrage over this incident needs to be directed towards those who wrote such a ridiculous law.
    I repeat: An unconstitutional law is no law at all. 16 Am Jur 2d, Sec 177 late 2d, Sec 256 (it's written, above in another post). I am a free man!
    As an American Citizen, I have not only the right to disobey, but also an obligation to disobey, an unconstitutional law. And, if a law is unconstitutional, no one has the authority to enforce it, because the Constitution is our rule of law.
    Now. If someone passes a law that infringes on my right to keep and bear arms (no conditions written in the 2A), by limiting or taking away my inalienable right; and some agent of "no-law" enforcement attempts to arrest me for "violating" a "no-law-at-all" then I will take any action that I deem appropriate. (And I have not a care if the Supreme Court has had time to deem it unconstitutional or not. They rank right up there with Janet Napollycrackpot, in my book.)
    I'm too old to fight, and damn sure too set in my ways to just bend over and take it from someone who is violating my rights, so they'd best be prepared to face the consequences -- I am.
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  9. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesMorrison View Post
    Just because SCOTUS has ruled, it doesn't make it legal or correct.
    until challenged, reversed, clarified or legislated out it is what is legal regardless of correctness

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    Quote Originally Posted by UATKP View Post
    I repeat: An unconstitutional law is no law at all. 16 Am Jur 2d, Sec 177 late 2d, Sec 256 (it's written, above in another post). I am a free man!
    until the law is altered you are subject to adhering to it. if you fail to follow the law it is at your own peril good luck with that!

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    Man arrested for having '2 extra bullets' in his sidearm's magazine.

    I stand by what is posted below..

    Unconstitutional Official Acts

    16 Am Jur 2d, Sec 177 late 2d, Sec 256:

    The general misconception is that any statute passed by legislators bearing the appearance of law constitutes the law of the land. The U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and any statute, to be valid, must be In agreement. It is impossible for both the Constitution and a law violating it to be valid; one must prevail. This is succinctly stated as follows:

    The General rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the form and name of law is in reality no law, but is wholly void, and ineffective for any purpose; since unconstitutionality dates from the time of it's enactment and not merely from the date of the decision so branding it. An unconstitutional law, in legal contemplation, is as inoperative as if it had never been passed. Such a statute leaves the question that it purports to settle just as it would be had the statute not been enacted.

    Since an unconstitutional law is void, the general principles follow that it imposes no duties, confers no rights, creates no office, bestows no power or authority on anyone, affords no protection, and justifies no acts performed under it.....

    A void act cannot be legally consistent with a valid one. An unconstitutional law cannot operate to supersede any existing valid law. Indeed, insofar as a statute runs counter to the fundamental law of the lend, it is superseded thereby.

    No one Is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it.

    Jon Roland:

    Strictly speaking, an unconstitutional statute is not a "law", and should not be called a "law", even if it is sustained by a court, for a finding that a statute or other official act is constitutional does not make it so, or confer any authority to anyone to enforce it.

    All citizens and legal residents of the United States, by their presence on the territory of the United States, are subject to the militia duty, the duty of the social compact that creates the society, which requires that each, alone and in concert with others, not only obey the Constitution and constitutional official acts, but help enforce them, if necessary, at the risk of one's life.

    Any unconstitutional act of an official will at least be a violation of the oath of that official to execute the duties of his office, and therefore grounds for his removal from office. No official immunity or privileges of rank or position survive the commission of unlawful acts. If it violates the rights of individuals, it is also likely to be a crime, and the militia duty obligates anyone aware of such a violation to investigate it, gather evidence for a prosecution, make an arrest, and if necessary, seek an indictment from a grand jury, and if one is obtained, prosecute the offender in a court of law.

    Deal with it and move on....


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