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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by apvbguy View Post
    do you carry a gun in TX with or without that government issued permission slip?
    Looking to help LEO with a little entrapment? I may be impulsive to a certain extent, have been known to leap a few times before looking, and I'm definitely bull-headed when it comes to my rights, but I'm certainly not stupid.
    Stop, Drop, and Roll won't work in Hell.
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  3. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by UATKP View Post
    Looking to help LEO with a little entrapment? I may be impulsive to a certain extent, have been known to leap a few times before looking, and I'm definitely bull-headed when it comes to my rights, but I'm certainly not stupid.
    so you are a lot of talk and a lot of BS

  4. #63
    If everyone is up in arms (pun intended) over the unconstitutionality of the law (BTW, I agree) and want to see the law challenged - then why all the angst over the arrest. Dude broke the law - constitutional or not - hence arrested, and now to potentially and hopefully challenge it. All the hand waving and melodrama over whether it is or is not constitutional seem pointless. It IS the law for now and if one breaks it they will potentially be arrested. If that is your duty then you will perhaps end up where he is. Again, I am not disagreeing, just saying' that disobeying unjust laws is not a guarantee you will not be arrested - just as this guy was.

    It would have been best for the potential of such a challenge if this guy had been squeaky clean...sadly it is hard to call him a "law-abiding" citizen.
    Si vis pacem para bellum

  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by the dark View Post
    If everyone is up in arms (pun intended) over the unconstitutionality of the law (BTW, I agree) and want to see the law challenged - then why all the angst over the arrest. Dude broke the law - constitutional or not - hence arrested, and now to potentially and hopefully challenge it. All the hand waving and melodrama over whether it is or is not constitutional seem pointless. It IS the law for now and if one breaks it they will potentially be arrested. If that is your duty then you will perhaps end up where he is. Again, I am not disagreeing, just saying' that disobeying unjust laws is not a guarantee you will not be arrested - just as this guy was.

    It would have been best for the potential of such a challenge if this guy had been squeaky clean...sadly it is hard to call him a "law-abiding" citizen.
    I agree. Plus, consider that in NY, you do not have to inform an officer you are armed.
    He was stupid enough to have his weapon in plain sight on the seat.

    Depending on the situation and his demeanor, he may have still been pulled over for the burned out bulb, but been given a warning and instructions to "get the light fixed". Better yet, if his vehicle was properly maintained, he probably would not have been pulled over in the first place.

    There's a lot of IF's, but there's one thing certain.... IF he wasn't bullheaded and hell-bent on disobeying the law because "he just didn't agree", he wouldn't be facing SAFE Act charges.

    Hopefully, it will be repealed and this discussion will be moot, but til then, it's 7+1 for me.

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    Here's the rub... and few people are getting it. This isn't about NYS or a seven-round mag rule. This is about nearly each and every state violating our rights in one form or another. Every state, without exception, who issues a CCW permit also has provisions in law to violate your rights. People rant about how good their state is and then must leave the gun in the car when banking, at church, in a hospital, in a restaurant, doctor's office, public transportation, etc. You're all taking it in the rear in some way but no one will acknowledge the problems in their own state. While NY did enact this vey stupid seven round law other states have enacted much stricter laws that disallow the actual carrying of the gun in certain places. That is the worst kind of gun control. Every state that issues a CCW permit also has legal provisions for denying or revoking the permit. None of it based on the strict construction view of the constitution.
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    ^^^^This.^^^^^^

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    Man arrested for having '2 extra bullets' in his sidearm's magazine.

    Quote Originally Posted by BC1 View Post
    Here's the rub... and few people are getting it. This isn't about NYS or a seven-round mag rule. This is about nearly each and every state violating our rights in one form or another. Every state, without exception, who issues a CCW permit also has provisions in law to violate your rights. People rant about how good their state is and then must leave the gun in the car when banking, at church, in a hospital, in a restaurant, doctor's office, public transportation, etc. You're all taking it in the rear in some way but no one will acknowledge the problems in their own state. While NY did enact this vey stupid seven round law other states have enacted much stricter laws that disallow the actual carrying of the gun in certain places. That is the worst kind of gun control. Every state that issues a CCW permit also has legal provisions for denying or revoking the permit. None of it based on the strict construction view of the constitution.
    Thank god I am safe from this insanity! The only places I can't carry are courthouses, schools and the post office.
    Signs have no force of law and you do not need a permit to carry openly or concealed.

    I am surrounded by liberal states with crazy laws, hence the signature line..


    Sent from behind enemy lines.

  9. #68
    I wouldn't be caught dead in NY... and given current regulations and laws and stupidity going on in NY.. Dead is all I would be too if I ever was to enter NY o.O
    Soo forget that place.. Much like KALIFONIA, and Illinois - NY is also a state that no-longer exists in my mind as apart of the USA.. (toss in Washington DC too just because thats a hellhole from which few escape)..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunewolf View Post
    I wouldn't be caught dead in NY... and given current regulations and laws and stupidity going on in NY.. Dead is all I would be too if I ever was to enter NY o.O
    Soo forget that place.. Much like KALIFONIA, and Illinois - NY is also a state that no-longer exists in my mind as apart of the USA.. (toss in Washington DC too just because thats a hellhole from which few escape)..
    Took a look at your state's laws. Here's where they leave you exposed...
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    The license does not authorize the carrying of a handgun in a sports arena or stadium, a tavern where the primary source of income is the sale of alcoholic liquor by the glass consumed on the premises, any property or facility owned or operated by a church, synagogue, mosque, temple, or other place of worship,An entertainment facility that the individual knows or should know has a seating capacity of 2,500 or more, a hospital, a casino, etc.
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    Do you understand that in NY people are not restricted in any of the ways underlined above? I even check my gun at the courthouse hen I'm there. Seems you are much more restricted than NY. Do you understand that you are being prohibited from carrying a firearm in many places where you may need it to save your life? Ever heard of Luby's Café (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luby's_massacre)? Well, 7 on my hip in NY beats a gun in the car in MI. As I said in a prior post, people aren't being realistic or truthful with themselves regarding their own state.
    GOD, GUNS and GUITARS

  11. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by apvbguy View Post
    so you are a lot of talk and a lot of BS
    Go ahead and sling your BS on the forum, tough guy. You are surely not so bravely stupid in person.
    I'll live my life in Liberty, and you go ahead and bend over and take it for peace at any cost.
    Stop, Drop, and Roll won't work in Hell.
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