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    Quote Originally Posted by kerstingm View Post
    I have a question to anybody that has been reloading for a while. When I took my reloading class one of the
    instructors had a jig that he put a riffle case in to check the case length. Can somebody please tell what this is called I would really like to get one.
    Thank you
    Case length gauge/trimmer Lee Case Trimmers, Tools & Accessories, Reloading, Shooting : Cabela's

    You can also just use a caliper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jes View Post
    Case length gauge/trimmer Lee Case Trimmers, Tools & Accessories, Reloading, Shooting : Cabela's

    You can also just use a caliper.
    You can check it with the caliper, but a gauge/trimmer will check the length and shave the excess brass off if it is stretched too long, so it's a time saver because it's a two-fer.

    Also, if you ever shoot Eastern European ammo that has the crimped primer pockets and want to reload it, Dillon provides the Super Swage 600 that can remove the crimp and NOT strip the brass from the rims! This can make brass reloadable that used to be garbage.
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  4. #13
    My suggestion for you, Now that you are looking to get into reloading is this, don't start with a progressive press. Go to a single stage or turret type press, That way you manipulate each stage manually. It is also a less expensive way to get into reloading, Plus it gives you more control on each step. You can get started with a LEE precision single stage kit, with all that you need for 1 caliber for about 150$.

    As for components, look at buying them in bulk. IE 500-1000 bullet lots, powder in 5 lbs jugs, primers in 5000-10,000 cnt flats. It cost's you much less in the long run when you figure it out.

    Scavenge brass from what ever ranges that are around you. A great way to get more money for reloading is by separating all that brass from the stuff you can use and the stuff you can't. Then go to your local metal recycling center to turn it in. I get about $.43/ lbs here in Vermont.

    Here are some places to order from for components, there are other's but these are the ones i deal with the most.

    Berry's bullets.
    Wideners
    Midway inc.



    buy them online and not in your local store's that way you will get some of the best deals possible. It does take away from your LGS's but you want to reload for the cheapest cost.

  5. #14
    Okay all I got my first 40 rounds done. I have a couple questions about setting up the RCBS bullet seater die. If I seat the bullet to the top of the cannelure like the instructions say to then my COAL is below the reloading data of 2.260. Do I seat it to the load data or worry more about COAL? Right now my cartridges were coming out around 2.238.
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    Buy in bulk and save
    example loading for 45 acp a hardcast 200 SWC with 5.7 gr of 231 and large pistol primer.
    1 lb of 321 price is $16 dollars = 1228 rounds per lb.
    powder .013 per round
    primer .029 per round
    bullet .07 per round
    that equals 11.2 cents per round
    or $5.60 per 50 rounds
    or $112. for 1,000 rounds.

    American Eagle 45acp FMJ is 15.99 for a box of 50
    That equals $319.80 per 1,000 - $112 for reloads = $207.80 savings.
    if you shoot 2,000 rds the savings of $415.60 just paid for some nice reloading equipment.

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    I'm thinking about getting into reloading myself. Burning up .45ACP and 30.06 for my M1 Garand, it'll be getting a bit much on the wallet. Who offers classes? Is there like a DYI Vid or book? Also, the recurring suggestion is Dillon, as was stated by a fellow shooter yesterday at the range. Any input would be appreciated.
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    Dillon is a progressive press. Is that what you are looking for?
    I like to see people start out on a single stage press.
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    kerstingm, sounds like a stoney point COL gauge. I believe hornady has bought them out and now call it a lock-n-load O.A.L. gauge. Lots of other gadgets out there, just gotta look and see. You might look into sinclair also. Very good products.
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    kerstingm, As long as you can eject a cartridge, there is no problem, generally. These numbers are from sammi so that the cartridges cycle in most firearms. If your COAL is shorter that is fine, as long as the bullet is firmly seated in the neck. The one thing that bullet seat depth affects is accuracy. If you have a rifle with a lot of free bore, I tend to not seat the bullet too deep as the jump from case mouth to bore can be longer than the bullet itself ( Ruger .204!) I also had a 7mm mag that liked the bullet seated .010 from the rifling. All you have to do is xperiment a bit to see what works, the reloading manuals are a guideline. None of the 8 I own have the same max loads. You will know when you reach the max for a particular firearm long before it blows up!! Caution and being aware of the danger signs is paramount......Heed the signs! I rarely use a max load, but diligence pays off.
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    For those of you wondering what types and brands of equipt. others use, I started out with a Hornady single stage lock-n-load press and still use it for sizing my .40 S&W cases. I now use a Redding T-7 Turret press. I also use exclusively Redding dies. I had tons of trouble with the sizing button on a set of .204 dies from Hornady, it kept breaking off in the neck. Hornady stood behind them and sent parts free, but it kept happening. never did figure out why. I like there stuff as it is very affordable, good quality. After trying the Redding dies there was no turning back. Expensive they are. No lies there. Super Quality. My rifles shoot very well. Concentricity is way up, consistency is super. I like to shoot small groups, Redding helps. The Ruger .204 is shooting .250" groups consistantly, 5 shot groups. My .22-250 is right at .300 for a 5 shot group. Both are at 100 meters. I also like Sinclair case prep tools. I kind of take reloading seriously! I think good equipment is worth the return in tiny groups. I realize not everyone will want to spend these amounts of cash on reloading. That is fine, there are plenty of products out there that are more than capable of doing what you need and not costing an arm and a leg! Find a press and make bullets!
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