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    No new Glocks in MA?

    So, I was home for turkey day so I figured I'd take my "MA" safety class since It's SO different than everyone else's. So I can start the miserable process of getting my Non-Res LTC for when I'm home. The Instructor was saying you can't buy any new Glocks??? What kind of crap is that? I've been thinking a G26 would be nice. But I don't want an antique. I know when I move back I can bring in what I already have until my Resident paperwork is done and from what I've read theres no law saying they would have to be registered. If I legally buy here (VA) does that create a loophole? That would suck if not!

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    Nope... Can't buy them here.. The Douc*e nozzle we have for an Attorney General here in MA has her own interpretation of the 2nd Amendment...

    Only guns on the roster of approved firearms are allowed to be sold here in MA.

    No Glocks, No Colts, No XD's, No Kel-Tec... Here's the list...
    http://www.mass.gov/Eeops/docs/chsb/...rms_roster.pdf

    Absolute BS... It's the result of liberal interpretation of the Bill of Rights...
    You can give peace a chance alright..

    I'll seek cover in case it goes badly..

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    Quote Originally Posted by snatale42 View Post
    So, I was home for turkey day so I figured I'd take my "MA" safety class since It's SO different than everyone else's. So I can start the miserable process of getting my Non-Res LTC for when I'm home. The Instructor was saying you can't buy any new Glocks??? What kind of crap is that? I've been thinking a G26 would be nice. But I don't want an antique. I know when I move back I can bring in what I already have until my Resident paperwork is done and from what I've read theres no law saying they would have to be registered. If I legally buy here (VA) does that create a loophole? That would suck if not!
    Nope. If you move here the firearms have to be registered to you with the state. If they are not on the approved list NO... That was the way it was explained to me... Sucks here, hence my signature... Site member mshean can corroborate...

    Don't move here if you can help it... NH or VT would be better locations...
    You can give peace a chance alright..

    I'll seek cover in case it goes badly..

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    Glocks were actually on the list, but I'm sure thats talking about the old ones. Also he was saying I'd have to swap my 16rd mags for 10s because there "high capacity" isn't that what the class A says right on it? If not can you still have them for say....the range? just not as your carry ones?

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    What the hell would anyone want to move HERE for?
    You can run... but you'll just die tired. 3%

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    Quote Originally Posted by snatale42 View Post
    Glocks were actually on the list, but I'm sure thats talking about the old ones. Also he was saying I'd have to swap my 16rd mags for 10s because there "high capacity" isn't that what the class A says right on it? If not can you still have them for say....the range? just not as your carry ones?
    From all my research as well as small talk with MASSHOLES who happen to come to our state. A class A only allows you to carry the firearm with you concealed. A class B permit only allows you to take the firearm from your house to the range IT DOES NOT ALLOW YOU TO CARRY CONCEALED. The following was taking from Mass.Gov website.

    Effective June 1, 1998, all new firearm license applicants must complete a certified firearms safety course or Basic Hunter Education Course

    The new law creates two types of licenses to carry (LTC):

    CLASS “A" LTC: Permits the purchase, possession and carrying of all ammunition, handguns, rifles, shotguns and feeding devices (both large and non-large capacity). This is the only license that allows the carrying of concealed handguns-either loaded or unloaded.

    CLASS “B" LTC: Permits the purchase, possession and carrying of all ammunition, non-large capacity handguns, and all rifles and shotguns (large and non-large capacity).


    Definition of Large Capacity Weapon
    A weapon is large capacity if it is a semi-automatic handgun or rifle that is capable of accepting (or readily modifiable to accept) any detachable large capacity feeding device that holds more than ten rounds, OR if it is a shotgun capable of accepting more than five shotgun shells, OR if it is an assault weapon.

    NOTE: A .22 caliber rifle with a fixed tubular magazine is not considered large capacity.

    Class "A" and Class "B" License to Carry (LTC) Information
    Your current LTC will be valid until its stated expiration date. New applicants must be 21 years of age or older to obtain a Class “A" or Class “B" permit. New applicants must complete a Mass. certified firearms safety course or a BASIC HUNTER EDUCATION COURSE. Class “A" and “B" LTC cost $100.00 and are valid for 6 years.

    Firearms Identification (FID) Cards
    The new FID card permits the purchase, possession and carrying of NON-LARGE CAPACITY RIFLES, SHOTGUNS and AMMUNITION ONLY. You must be at least 18 years old (or 15 - 17 years old with parental consent) to apply for an FID card. The fee for an FID card is $100.00 and it is valid for 6 years. New applicants must complete a Mass. approved firearms safety course or a BASIC HUNTER EDUCATION COURSE. A restricted FID card is available solely for the possession of mace or pepper spray. Applicants for the restricted FID are exempt from the education requirement.

    Transporting Guns in Motor Vehicles
    CLASS “A" LTC: Allows the holder to transport a loaded or unloaded handgun on his person or in a motor vehicle if the handgun is under their direct control. Handgun does not have to be in a locked case or container.

    CLASS “B" LTC: Allows the holder to transport a non-large capacity handgun. Handgun must be unloaded and secured in a locked trunk or locked container.

    LARGE-CAPACITY RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS: No person possessing a large-capacity rifle or shotgun under a Class “A" or Class “B" permit shall possess said rifle or shotgun in a motor vehicle unless unloaded and contained within a locked trunk or in a locked case or other secure container.

    NOTE: All rifles and shotguns must be unloaded when in or on a motor vehicle, but only large-capacity rifles and shotguns are subject to the storage requirement. This also applies to Muzzleloading or other Black Powder arms.

    Carrying Rifles and Shotguns upon Public Ways while Hunting
    You can carry a loaded or unloaded rifle or shotgun upon or across a public way if you are engaged in hunting and hold a valid hunting license. You do not need a trigger lock or case on the rifle or shotgun provided you are engaged in hunting with a valid hunting license.

    NOTE: You shall not possess a loaded rifle or shotgun nor discharge same within 500 feet of a building or dwelling in use without the owners or occupants permission. Also, you shall not discharge same upon or across any state or hard surfaced highway nor within 150 feet of such highway.

    Storage of Firearms
    All handguns, rifles and shotguns must be stored in a locked container or equipped with a tamper-resistant mechanical lock or other safety device. Such weapon shall not be deemed stored or kept if carried by or under the control of the owner or other lawfully authorized user. Primitive firearms are exempt from this storage requirement.

    Massachusetts Gun Licensing Requirements

    THEY MAY TAKE OUR LIVES BUT THEY'LL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldOwl View Post
    What the hell would anyone want to move HERE for?
    In my defense, I tried convincing the girl to consider right over the NH border. Nice side of Nashua, Salem etc. So far not going for it I'm trying for a green city but who knows. We moved from West Roxbury but If I wind up back there.......nuff said.

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    quote=snatale42;168250]In my defense, I tried convincing the girl to consider right over the NH border. Nice side of Nashua, Salem etc. So far not going for it I'm trying for a green city but who knows. We moved from West Roxbury but If I wind up back there.......nuff said.[/quote]

    Is this Female your wife? Or GF? If your not ball and chained already I would dump her ass and find a new one. Giving up your rights to move to PRMA(Masshole USA) sounds like your(Pu**Y whipped). What reason other then maybe jobs would you have to move to socialist USA? Higher taxes? High sales tax?Income tax?Little to no gun rights(depending on the police department)Free health care for all?High Crime?

    THEY MAY TAKE OUR LIVES BUT THEY'LL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM!!!!!

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    Is this Female your wife? Or GF? If your not ball and chained already I would dump her ass and find a new one. Giving up your rights to move to PRMA(Masshole USA) sounds like your(Pu**Y whipped). What reason other then maybe jobs would you have to move to socialist USA? Higher taxes? High sales tax?Income tax?Little to no gun rights(depending on the police department)Free health care for all?High Crime?
    I'm with ya. It ain't over yet! and ya pretty much the job thing, I've got not issue commuting to Boston for the higher pay and then living it up in NH since I start early AM so I can beat 93's crap. But for her it would suck. Thats the big one.

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    I just took the Mass. LTC course in Nov. at S&W. First the instructor laughed and asked why I paid the $100 for the non res permit. The course was interesting with much focus on Mass law. Talk about pitfalls! If I was to carry in Ma. I am pretty sure it would be in one of those fanny pack type holsters. This way there would be absolutely no chance of it printing or accidentally becoming exposed. In Mass if it this happens they will arrest your behind for brandishing. That is my estimation from what was said in the class not what thr instructor said.
    Now about the GLOCK >>>>> I was told if it was a pre ban Glock it would be allowed. I asked if they would know that by the serial # and was told yes. Therefore I could carry my Glock 17 with 17 rds. in the MAG.
    As I write this it seems to me if for some reason they found me carrying it (say I had to use it or they found out some other way) they would probably arrest me or at least confiscate my gun until they ascertained it was a pre ban gun!
    Anyone know if I changed my barrel and used Glock 22 mags so I could carry.40 S&W, more then 10, would that be ok since the gun would still have the same pre ban serial #?
    Now another problem that lovely Mas gun law causes. I want to take a defensive shot gun class at S&W. I have a Remington 870, folding stock and capable of 8 in the tube. According to post above I can carry it in my car unloaded and locked in the trunk but can I use it in the class? S&W is private property! Would I be within the law? Or, would it be one of those..no one at S7W are going to call the police and no one would know type thing. I would rather be within the wonderful protective infringements of my 2A rights put forth by Massachusetts!
    Hope I can get some feedback and thanks.

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