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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by ARV View Post
    Yes, but in the end it is up to each individual chief. In essence, there are over 300 different possible outcomes.The Mass Chief's Assn is a guideline, and also says:

    There are still many towns that require doctors notes, membership in a club etc. Some refuse to issue to people under 25. Comm2A goes after some with lawsuits, but its a long slow process to drag them in line.

    http://www.masschiefs.org/documents/...em%20Areas.pdf

    Also bear in mind that Chief in town A might think "Target and hunting" means one thing, and Chief in town B that your in might think it means another. There are no set guidelines or definitions as to what restrictions mean. I have even heard of one Chief issuing a LTC A with an "Open Carry" restriction. Go Figure.



    MGL: Mass General Law, FID: Firearms IDentification [Card], LTC: License To Carry



    CMR: Code of Mass Regulations
    Uh huh.....amd my town just became a red town right as my wife was about to apply! Is WTF on that list?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich_S View Post
    Uh huh.....amd my town just became a red town right as my wife was about to apply! Is WTF on that list?
    "red"...you spend any time on NES?

    Mine is as green as green can be. When I first applied they told me to use "all lawful purposes" for a reason. LTC A first time no issue. Chief will be retiring the 1st of the year. Hope the new one is as good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARV View Post
    "red"...you spend any time on NES?

    Mine is as green as green can be. When I first applied they told me to use "all lawful purposes" for a reason. LTC A first time no issue. Chief will be retiring the 1st of the year. Hope the new one is as good.
    I was a green member on NES but let that go. I got bored there and decided to try different boards like this one. The green/red thing isn't just NES. GOAL, Comm2A, and many instructors also use it. Good luck on the new chief. Green can turn to red overnight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich_S View Post
    I was a green member on NES but let that go. I got bored there and decided to try different boards like this one. The green/red thing isn't just NES. GOAL, Comm2A, and many instructors also use it. Good luck on the new chief. Green can turn to red overnight.
    Ive only been there for the past year or so. I find enough there to keep be interested. I only asked because I have only ever seen red/green used consistently on NES so that's what pops to mind when I hear it. WRT the Chief, I think they want to hire from within. If it changed to a more restricted policy there would be strong opposition from the town.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARV View Post
    Ive only been there for the past year or so. I find enough there to keep be interested. I only asked because I have only ever seen red/green used consistently on NES so that's what pops to mind when I hear it. WRT the Chief, I think they want to hire from within. If it changed to a more restricted policy there would be strong opposition from the town.
    Good....maybe you won't have to move then

  7. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip Gain View Post
    Therefore, we either need to revoke the "may issue" provisions of the FID card. Or we need to get legislation that AFFIRMS our right to openly bear arms, and RESTRICTS the ability of authorities to pull permits for the simple act of carrying openly.

    So yes. I signed.
    FID's are SHALL ISSUE
    LTC's are MAY ISSUE

    FID's only apply to long guns and are unnecessary if you posses an LTC, as LTC overrides it.

  8. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by snatale42 View Post
    FID's are SHALL ISSUE
    LTC's are MAY ISSUE

    FID's only apply to long guns and are unnecessary if you posses an LTC, as LTC overrides it.
    I don't know if you noticed...but someone already clarified this a bunch of posts ago. Obviously I typed FID when I meant LTC.

    So it should have been "We need to either revoke the "may issue" provisions of the LTC, or we need to get legislation that affirms our right to openly bear arms, and restricts the ability of authorities to pull LTCs for the simple act of carrying openly."
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    Quote Originally Posted by xghostyxjokerx View Post
    Could mass open carry with class a ltc no restriction?online open carry petition-uploadfromtaptalk1394394213377.jpg

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    Yes, but you already knew that from the attachment in your post. The problem in MA is that people don't do it very often and the cops don't know the law. People in MA typically don't have the balls to stand up for their rights like they do in other states. It's been suggested to GOAL on multiple occasions to organize an Open Carry BBQ or dinner at a restaurant or something to that effect and it never happens. As long as people remain scared of pissing off their CLEO, then MA will never change. I blame GOAL for most of it. Their ONLY job is to make the Commonwealth better for gun owners, what have they really accomplished? Sorry GOAL, prove me wrong. Showing up at a town hall meeting and defeating an "idea" that was never a law doesn't cut it! I used to be a member and couldn't rationalize continuing to pay them. I even continued my membership when I moved out of state to keep helping (or so I though) until I realized how ineffective they were compared to other states pro-gun org's. Although I'm still in MA all the time, I live in VA now and was completely blown away by how much the org down here (VCDL) accomplishes, and believe me VA has plenty of anti's in it! Maybe even more than MA! The Northern part of the state makes MA look like a conservative state by comparison.... YA! It's THAT bad! Now we have an Anti Governor and he's already tried pulling crap and failed.

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