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    Thumbs up Change to Michigan 2008-PA-0194

    Act No. 194
    Public Acts of 2008
    Approved by the Governor
    July 10, 2008
    Filed with the Secretary of State
    July 11, 2008
    EFFECTIVE DATE: January 7, 2009

    Some of the changes are:

    (4) Subsection (1) does not apply to any of the following:
    (a) An individual licensed under this act who is a retired police officer or retired law enforcement officer. The
    concealed weapon licensing board may require a letter from the law enforcement agency stating that the retired police
    officer or law enforcement officer retired in good standing.
    (b) An individual who is licensed under this act and who is employed or contracted by an entity described under
    subsection (1) to provide security services and is required by his or her employer or the terms of a contract to carry a
    concealed firearm on the premises of the employing or contracting entity.
    (c) An individual who is licensed as a private investigator or private detective under the private detective license
    act, 1965 PA 285, MCL 338.821 to 338.851.
    (d) Any of the following who is licensed under this act:
    (i) A corrections officer of a county sheriff’s department.
    (ii) A motor carrier officer or capitol security officer of the department of state police.
    (iii) A member of a sheriff’s posse.
    (iv) An auxiliary officer or reserve officer of a police or sheriff’s department.
    (v) A parole or probation officer of the department of corrections.
    Last edited by frank.macher; 08-21-2008 at 03:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frank.macher View Post
    Act No. 194
    Public Acts of 2008
    Approved by the Governor
    July 10, 2008
    Filed with the Secretary of State
    July 11, 2008
    EFFECTIVE DATE: January 7, 2009

    Some of the changes are:

    (4) Subsection (1) does not apply to any of the following:
    (a) An individual licensed under this act who is a retired police officer or retired law enforcement officer. The
    concealed weapon licensing board may require a letter from the law enforcement agency stating that the retired police
    officer or law enforcement officer retired in good standing.
    (b) An individual who is licensed under this act and who is employed or contracted by an entity described under
    subsection (1) to provide security services and is required by his or her employer or the terms of a contract to carry a
    concealed firearm on the premises of the employing or contracting entity.
    (c) An individual who is licensed as a private investigator or private detective under the private detective license
    act, 1965 PA 285, MCL 338.821 to 338.851.
    (d) Any of the following who is licensed under this act:
    (i) A corrections officer of a county sheriff’s department.
    (ii) A motor carrier officer or capitol security officer of the department of state police.
    (iii) A member of a sheriff’s posse.
    (iv) An auxiliary officer or reserve officer of a police or sheriff’s department.
    (v) A parole or probation officer of the department of corrections.
    Great more special privileges for LEOs. Once again we are equal or we are not.
    *The information contained above is not meant to be legal advice, but is solely intended as a starting point for further research on the subject of open carry in Michigan. If you have further questions it is advisable to seek out an attorney that is well versed in firearm law.

    “The charge of every citizen of a free state is to be ever vigilante of the government’s role as their servant and not allow it to become their master.” Brian Jeffs, 2008

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    And how does any of this benefit ordinary, law abiding citizens who aren't LEOs or corrections officers?

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    Sadly it doesn't, but, it does give Reserve members of the LEO's a step in the right direction. Before, unless they were in an official capacity and in uniform, the permissions were the same as for everyday Joe Citizens too.

    I do understand it doesn't help everyone yet, but, it is a form of forward progress.

    We just have to keep pushing the issue forward to get exempt status to be a non-issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tattedupboy View Post
    And how does any of this benefit ordinary, law abiding citizens who aren't LEOs or corrections officers?
    Well a CPL holder can open carry in those places based on two AG opinions, the MSP and Senator Prusi stated that a person with a CPL can carry a firearm openly in the exempted areas listed in MCL 750.234d. For example, with permission from the owner you can openly carry a handgun in a bar, sports arena, etc.

    AG Opinions No. 7097 January 11, 2002 and No. 7097 January 11, 2002. “Your analysis is correct. Non-CPL pistol free zones do not apply to CPL holders. The CPL pistol free zones only apply to CPL holders carrying a concealed pistol. Therefore, a CPL holder may openly carry a pistol in Michigan's pistol free zones.” Sgt. Thomas Deasy, Michigan State Police Executive Resource Section, (517) 336-6441.)

    Precaution: There is no known case law to substantiate or overturn these opinions
    *The information contained above is not meant to be legal advice, but is solely intended as a starting point for further research on the subject of open carry in Michigan. If you have further questions it is advisable to seek out an attorney that is well versed in firearm law.

    “The charge of every citizen of a free state is to be ever vigilante of the government’s role as their servant and not allow it to become their master.” Brian Jeffs, 2008

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    Quote Originally Posted by tattedupboy View Post
    And how does any of this benefit ordinary, law abiding citizens who aren't LEOs or corrections officers?
    One step at at time son one step...

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