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    what about Ohio does anyone know about if they will issue a ccw to someone with a bad conduct discharge
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrjam2jab View Post
    I see where PA has the question:



    But I don't see where an OTH discharge is a prohibition.
    Wow...forgot about this post....found it for PA:

    18 PA CS ss6109 (e)(xi) An individual who has been discharged from the armed forces of the United States under dishonorable conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirbornePB View Post
    I do not really see this as being an issue, military law is a lot fairer than civilian law. You really have to screw up not to get an honorable, OTH is a six month wait and you can get it changed to an honorable.
    Not so fast there! "A six month wait and it turns Honorable" is flat out BS.
    To change the nature of a discharge you have to appeal to your services board for correction of records. You must state why you think the discharge was unjust. (Such as unduly harsh for the nature of the offense commuted.) Then the service board does their investigation to determine what they will do.

    I personally know of one where the "kid" said the hell with it let me out.
    He applied for an upgrade ans was told basically "you didn't fight it the first time, you must have thought it was what you deserved." So he gets no change to his discharge EVER!!!

    So back on topic if your Discharge wont allow you to get a permit you can always petition your services review board to attempt to get it changed. Then you may be able to get your permit.

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    For information:
    There are five basic types of military discharges: honorable, general (under honorable conditions), other than honorable, bad conduct and dishonorable. Each of these denotes the quality of service and discharge conditions under which the service member completed his contract.

    An honorable discharge is given to service members who performed above and beyond the call of duty and who were on excellent terms upon discharge. General (under honorable conditions) means the service member successfully completed his contract, but there were circumstances that were less than honorable either during his service or upon discharge. An example of this is a service member who is discharged prematurely due to a medical condition or other unavoidable situation. Other than honorable, bad conduct and dishonorable are all discharges which mean the service member didn't satisfactorily complete his service term. Going absent without leave or being found guilty in front of a court martial warrant these types of discharges. Bad conduct and dishonorable discharges are only given out on the order of a court martial or other equivalent proceeding.



    Read more: About U.S. Military Discharge | eHow.com About U.S. Military Discharge | eHow.com
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    "General (under honorable conditions) means the service member successfully completed his contract, but there were circumstances that were less than honorable either during his service or upon discharge. An example of this is a service member who is discharged prematurely due to a medical condition or other unavoidable situation "


    I am retired from The US Army, retired because of a medical. My discharge is HONORABLE.i Also served in vietnam as a US Marine.
    Am going to have to disagree with his statement above for GENERAL DISCHARGE due to a medical. If a person is discharged due to medical conditions the discharge will usualy be HONORABLE. Most if not all of the MIlitary being discharged because of war injuries are recieving HONORABLE DISCHARGES, and probably MEDICAL RETIREMENT. A General discharge is probably for not doing your job or something along that line.

  7. "So if you drink or have been diagnosed with PTSD, your Screwed."


    Whoa. This isn't the case. I have been diagnosed with PTSD since 2004 and if this was the rule of law, I would certainly not have a CHP. If you have PTSD and HAVE BEEN COMMITTED so some institution, you might be qualified. A simple diagnosis alone isn't prohibitive, or if your visit to the nut house was a voluntary admission is considered "adjudicated".

  8. What about Illinois? Oh wait it doesn't matter.. I can serve my country, honorably but can't carry.. legally..

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    Quote Originally Posted by kn1080 View Post
    are you actually required to say that you served in the armed forces?
    I seem to remember the Washington State application asked "have you ever served in the Armed Forces"
    Don't recall if they asked about OTH but I think there was a question pertaining to was it honorable yes or no..

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    Quote Originally Posted by slidell jim View Post
    Anyone out there familiar with OTH discharges and CC permits? I am looking into what states, that are otherwise "shall issue" states, would have a problem with an OTH discharge. I am hoping someone or somewhere has a consolidated list of states that have a restriction against issuing CC permit to a citizen with a OTH in their history. I am hoping to avoid doing the tedious research on each State's laws books, times 50 states.

    States I have already researched
    LA = will not issue for BCD, DD, or OTH
    FL = will not issue for BCD, DD; will issue for OTH
    MS = does not mention and military discharge; but references "Is not disqualified to possess or own a weapon based on federal law", which covers BCD and DD
    TX = will only issue if "(2) was discharged under honorable conditions, if discharged from the United States armed force"
    A "shall-issue" state that refuses to give a permit to someone with an other than honorable discharge is not a "shall issue" state, it's a discretionary issue state. Been telling you guys for a long time it's a ruse. They all have the right to say no for one reason or another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slidell jim View Post
    Anyone out there familiar with OTH discharges and CC permits? I am looking into what states, that are otherwise "shall issue" states, would have a problem with an OTH discharge. I am hoping someone or somewhere has a consolidated list of states that have a restriction against issuing CC permit to a citizen with a OTH in their history. I am hoping to avoid doing the tedious research on each State's laws books, times 50 states.

    States I have already researched
    LA = will not issue for BCD, DD, or OTH
    FL = will not issue for BCD, DD; will issue for OTH
    MS = does not mention and military discharge; but references "Is not disqualified to possess or own a weapon based on federal law", which covers BCD and DD
    TX = will only issue if "(2) was discharged under honorable conditions, if discharged from the United States armed force"
    Michigan's requirement is the same as the feds on this question: Applicant can "Not be discharged from the United States Armed Forces under dishonorable
    conditions."
    Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man gainst his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia...Tenche Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.

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