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    Revealing Classified Material

    How could more than 76,900 classified military and other documents be in the hands of a junior enlisted. In less things have drastically changed, you ONLY had access to "Need to Know". Was this all INTEL? Anybody know or comment on?
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    Inept comes to mind.
    "The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."

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    Documentation is being increasingly computer based. It's easier to make, search, and review.
    I'm sure that these items needed to be reviewed and updated by the front line soldiers involved with the situations. Thus, they gave all front line soldiers the same basic access. It was too cumbersome to limit access by individual soldier, so they probably limited access defined by their role on the battle field.

    This would open up a lot of front line information up to everyone on the front line who has time to look.

    Security restrictions take an immense amount of time to administer properly if you want to keep refined groups of people out. It takes almost no time at all to grant permissions to large groups of people and it makes the user's life easier. I should know, it's my job to advise people on these matters. I'm over-simplifying here, but hopefully my point gets across.

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    The guy was an analyst, so he had access. Access, generally speaking, is very strictly controlled. But once you have access, you may have access to vast amounts of information.

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    When I was in the Air Force an entire Technical order would be classified. This "book" may contain several hundred pages each, of which, would be classified if removed from the binding. The same for several pages of communication. It adds up very quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Booga View Post
    Documentation is being increasingly computer based. It's easier to make, search, and review.
    I'm sure that these items needed to be reviewed and updated by the front line soldiers involved with the situations. Thus, they gave all front line soldiers the same basic access. It was too cumbersome to limit access by individual soldier, so they probably limited access defined by their role on the battle field.

    This would open up a lot of front line information up to everyone on the front line who has time to look.

    Security restrictions take an immense amount of time to administer properly if you want to keep refined groups of people out. It takes almost no time at all to grant permissions to large groups of people and it makes the user's life easier. I should know, it's my job to advise people on these matters. I'm over-simplifying here, but hopefully my point gets across.
    When I was in the military, I had access to classified documents, however, I only had access to certain information that pertained to my unit and it's operations. As an analyst, this man, without a doubt, had access to a considerable amount of information. I don't understand how he gained access to a lot of the stuff that came out. He would have had to have a very high level position and access to other agencies information. He would have also had a lot more rank than just being a PFC. I don't believe he had access to everything that has been revealed and that there are a lot more people out there responsible for the leaks. This young fellow will probably wind up being the scapegoat for a lot of others who will come out clean. Still, he should be prosecuted. Sad state of affairs!

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    The problem with "access" generally speaking, is it makes it very easy to get ahold of more stuff you may no strictly be supposed to be authorized for. Maybe not necessarily what you are using or handling in your job, but it's there. That will probably be one aspect of the charges he faces: unauthorized access.

    For example, he may have had the combination to a safe where the report he worked on was stored in the 1st drawer, and that's all he was supopsed to be dealing with. Maybe there was tons of raw intel in the 2nd drawer the more senior analysts were working on, which he helped himself to when nobody was looking.

    Just a WAG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocked _and_Locked View Post
    The problem with "access" generally speaking, is it makes it very easy to get ahold of more stuff you may no strictly be supposed to be authorized for. Maybe not necessarily what you are using or handling in your job, but it's there. That will probably be one aspect of the charges he faces: unauthorized access.

    For example, he may have had the combination to a safe where the report he worked on was stored in the 1st drawer, and that's all he was supopsed to be dealing with. Maybe there was tons of raw intel in the 2nd drawer the more senior analysts were working on, which he helped himself to when nobody was looking.

    Just a WAG.
    That is what compartmentalization is supposed to control. And somebody failed at the vetting.

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    What failed for sure was the reliability and trustworthiness of the individual in question.

    We can only make vauge speculation on the facts of the matter. Anything else will only be known to the investigators.

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    What happen to need to know, don't matter anyway since your president would not have been allowed any access to documents because of his association. I do however agree one private (right). What happend to treason and hanging shooting for same.

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