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    Obama "Strongly Objects" to Religious Liberty Amendment....

    Folks, contact your legislators and insist that they support this amendment.

    JUNE 12, 2013
    Obama ‘Strongly Objects’ to Religious Liberty Amendment

    6/12/2013 4:02:00 PM - Todd Starnes

    The Obama Administration “strongly objects” to a proposed amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act that would have protected the religious rights of soldiers – including evangelical Christian service members who are facing growing hostility towards their religion.

    The amendment was authored by Rep. John Fleming, R-La. It would have “required the Armed Forces to accommodate ‘actions and speech’ reflecting the conscience, moral, principles or religious beliefs of the member.”

    The Obama Administration said the amendment would have a “significant adverse effect on good order, discipline, morale, and mission accomplishment.”

    “With its statement, the White House is now endorsing military reprimands of members who keep a Bible on their desk or express a religious belief,” Fleming told Fox News. “This administration is aggressively hostile towards religious beliefs that it deems to be politically incorrect.”

    Fleming introduced the amendment after a series of high-profile incidents involving attacks on religious liberty within the military- including an Air Force officer who was told to remove a Bible from his desk because it might give the impression he was endorsing a religion.

    He said there are other reports of Christian service members and chaplains being punished for their faith.

    The Air Force censored a video created by a chaplain because it include the word “God.” The Air Force feared the word might offend Muslims and atheists.

    A service member received a “severe and possibly career-ending reprimand” for expressing his faith’s religious position about homosexuality in a personal religious blog.

    An enlisted service member received a career-ending punishment for sending personal invitations to his promotion party which mentioned that he would be providing Chick-fil-A sandwiches due to his respect for the Defense of Marriage Act.

    A senior military official at Fort Campbell sent out a lengthy email officially instructing officers to recognize “the religious right in America” as a “domestic hate group” akin to the KKK and Neo-Nazis because of its opposition to homosexual behavior.

    A chaplain was relieved of his command over a military chapel because, consistent with DOMA’s definition of marriage, he could not allow same-sex weddings to take place in the chapel.

    An enlisted service member was threatened and denied promotion by a senior NCO for expressing – during a personal conversation – his religious belief in support of traditional marriage.

    Last month Coast Guard Rear Admiral William Lee told a National Day of Prayer audience that religious liberty was being threatened by Pentagon lawyers and service members are being told to hide their faith in Christ.

    “Leaders like myself are feeling the constraints of rules and regulations and guidance issued by lawyers that put us in a tighter and tighter box regarding our constitutional right to express our religious faith,” he said.

    Fleming said the purpose of his amendment is to clarify ambiguities in the Pentagon’s policies.

    “The bottom line is the military is bending over backwards to remove – even in the case of chaplains – expressions of faith and conscience,” Fleming said.

    Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, called the Obama Administration's edict a "chilling suppression of religious freedom."

    "The Obama administration has joined forces with those who are attacking the religious freedoms of those who serve in our Armed Services," Perkins said. "The Administration's opposition to Rep. Fleming’s religious freedom amendment reveals that this administration has gone beyond accommodating the anti-Christian activists who want to remove any vestige of Christianity from the military, to aiding them by blocking this bipartisan measure."

    More than 167,000 Americans have signed FRC petitions in the wake of religious liberty attacks within the military.

    “The effects of this chilling suppression of religious freedom is driving faith underground in our military and will eventually drive it out," Perkins said. "This not only deprives those who serve of the benefits that flow from religious participation, but it undermines the moral foundation of the worlds most powerful military. This should concern everyone."

    Fleming said his amendment, which has bipartisan support, would have protected the free speech rights of men and women in uniform.

    But the White House said the change would limit the discretion of commanders to address “potentially problematic speech.”

    “That is an outrageous position, but it’s what I’ve come to expect from an administration that is aggressively hostile toward religious beliefs that it deems politically incorrect,” Fleming said.

    He said the president has at times shown hostility in general for expression of religious beliefs.

    “Now that’s beginning to be reflected in the Pentagon itself,” he warned. “We need to protect the free speech of the brave warriors who fight to safeguard our liberties and I hope Congress will reject this blatant White House Attack on religious freedom.”

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  3. Yeah, and we have to stay on this because it's going to get even worse.

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    Obama "Strongly Objects" to Religious Liberty Amendment....

    Probably no issue with them having a Koran on their stand though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TroutStalker View Post
    Probably no issue with them having a Koran on their stand though.
    Of course not. That would violate the rights of those like Nidal Malik Hasan, the "Workplace Violence" shooter at Ft Hood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TroutStalker View Post
    Probably no issue with them having a Koran on their stand though.
    Nor a Bible. But that's not the issue. The issue is the arrogantly self-righteous evangelicals being compelled to spread their version of religion to everyone in sight, in person, online or anywhere else.

    They need to mind their own business or their arse is out.

    You think Christians deserve more rights for protecting their POV than anyone else?

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    He said there are other reports of Christian service members and chaplains being punished for their faith.
    What he didn't say was they were using their religion as a social, political or professional weapon against others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwimby View Post
    What he didn't say was they were using their religion as a social, political or professional weapon against others.
    And you know this how?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fstroupe View Post
    And you know this how?
    Maybe it would better to begin at the beginning.

    I'll examine and debunk the OP's FUD in greater detail just as soon as he cites it.

    That should satisfy your curiosity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwimby View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TroutStalker View Post
    Probably no issue with them having a Koran on their stand though.
    Nor a Bible. But that's not the issue. The issue is the arrogantly self-righteous evangelicals being compelled to spread their version of religion to everyone in sight, in person, online or anywhere else.

    They need to mind their own business or their arse is out.

    You think Christians deserve more rights for protecting their POV than anyone else?
    Your missing the point kwimby, and quite defensively. I don't think one religion should be pushed over another. But the president has pretty much proclaimed that if you so much as look wrong at a Muslim, you will be prosecuted for a hate crime. I fall in the camp that all religions should be protected. You know, being free. I'm pretty sure the Civil Rights Act of 1964 made it unlawful for an employer(federal government in this case) to "fail to refuse to hire or to discharge any individual, or to otherwise discriminate against any individual with respect to his compensation, terms, conditions or privileges or employment, because of such individual's race, color, RELIGION, sex or national origin."

    The problem is the president loves to abuse our laws in any way that fits his personal agenda. Protecting Christians is clearly not part of his agenda.

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    Obama "Strongly Objects" to Religious Liberty Amendment....

    I've been in for 3 years now and have never seen any of this. Other than wedding rings, the only jewelry allowed to be worn in basic was a religious chain (crucifix, rosary, Star of David) and if somebody told you to take it off, they were quick to reprimand that person. I support everybody's right to express their religion, but that doesn't mean I want to be proselytized to constantly. I have my own set of beliefs and I don't need you harassing me with yours constantly. Being told, you can't have a bible on your desk is ridiculous. Being told you can't walk around trying to convert people while in the military is not.

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