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    Women in combat situations

    Women in combat situations

    In 2013, the US military lifted its ban on women serving in combat. Shortly after, the Marine Corps began what it calls an “unprecedented research effort” to understand the impact of gender integration on its combat forces. That took the form of a year-long experiment called the Ground Combat Element Integrated Task Force, in which 400 Marines—100 of them female—trained for combat together and then undertook a simulated deployment, with every facet of their experience measured and scrutinized.

    All branches of the military are facing a January 1, 2016, deadline to open all combat roles to women. The Marine Corps is using this experiment to decide whether to request exceptions to that mandate. The Corps’ summary of the experiment, posted online today by NPR, concludes that combat teams were less effective when they included women.

    Overall, the report says, all-male teams and crews outperformed mixed-gender ones on 93 out of 134 tasks evaluated. All-male teams were universally faster “in each tactical movement.” On “lethality,” the report says:

    All-male 0311 (rifleman) infantry squads had better accuracy compared to gender-integrated squads. There was a notable difference between genders for every individual weapons system (i.e. M4, M27, and M203) within the 0311 squads, except for the probability of hit & near miss with the M4.

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    All-male infantry crew-served weapons teams engaged targets quicker and registered more hits on target as compared to gender-integrated infantry crew-served weapons teams, with the exception of M2 accuracy.
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    Like I’ve said over and over again, the whole concept of a military unit, no matter where they are at, changes with the influx of females into the unit; it’s just a fact of life and in a combat situation, it’s even worse, yea they can shoot and all of that, but the overall physical abilities of a woman is detrimental to the fighting unit.

    I retired from the Navy in 91 and during my time I can attest to what I said. Whenever we had females in the mix the unit’s overall effectiveness was altered. When I was the security officer in Gitmo we had female’s attached to my unit’s and a week didn’t go by when I had to put out various fires all the time, -IE- It’s my time of the month, it’s too hot out there. You get the picture, there are just some areas in the military they are unsuited for, it’s not being racist, it’s just a fact of life.
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    When did sexism become a racial issue?

    I enjoy reading history of female soldiers from other countries, and what they can accomplish.

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    When did sexism become a racial issue?

    I enjoy reading history of female soldiers from other countries, and what they can accomplish.

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  6. Well, duh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by opsspec1991 View Post
    Women in combat situations

    In 2013, the US military lifted its ban on women serving in combat. Shortly after, the Marine Corps began what it calls an “unprecedented research effort” to understand the impact of gender integration on its combat forces. That took the form of a year-long experiment called the Ground Combat Element Integrated Task Force, in which 400 Marines—100 of them female—trained for combat together and then undertook a simulated deployment, with every facet of their experience measured and scrutinized.


    All branches of the military are facing a January 1, 2016, deadline to open all combat roles to women. The Marine Corps is using this experiment to decide whether to request exceptions to that mandate. The Corps’ summary of the experiment, posted online today by NPR, concludes that combat teams were less effective when they included women.

    Overall, the report says, all-male teams and crews outperformed mixed-gender ones on 93 out of 134 tasks evaluated. All-male teams were universally faster “in each tactical movement.” On “lethality,” the report says:

    All-male 0311 (rifleman) infantry squads had better accuracy compared to gender-integrated squads. There was a notable difference between genders for every individual weapons system (i.e. M4, M27, and M203) within the 0311 squads, except for the probability of hit & near miss with the M4.

    And:

    All-male infantry crew-served weapons teams engaged targets quicker and registered more hits on target as compared to gender-integrated infantry crew-served weapons teams, with the exception of M2 accuracy.
    Sent from a friend

    My Thoughts:
    Like I’ve said over and over again, the whole concept of a military unit, no matter where they are at, changes with the influx of females into the unit; it’s just a fact of life and in a combat situation, it’s even worse, yea they can shoot and all of that, but the overall physical abilities of a woman is detrimental to the fighting unit.

    I retired from the Navy in 91 and during my time I can attest to what I said. Whenever we had females in the mix the unit’s overall effectiveness was altered. When I was the security officer in Gitmo we had female’s attached to my unit’s and a week didn’t go by when I had to put out various fires all the time, -IE- It’s my time of the month, it’s too hot out there. You get the picture, there are just some areas in the military they are unsuited for, it’s not being racist, it’s just a fact of life.
    What did you think about Gitmo when you were stationed there? I was there working as a contractor for some military projects circa 2008-2009 so some things may have changed since the time you were there but I loved it. Would go back in a heartbeat if the opportunity presented itself again. The only thing I didn't care for was the iguana **** everywhere you stepped. Some of those suckers were huge.
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    Right now I'm in Qatar, but folks in my unit are rotating in and out of Afghanistan every 2 months. There are 2 females in my unit. We have not had any problems. I think that its something that we're overcoming with time. It's just a matter of adapting to it.
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    Absolutely women should be allowed in combat situations. They are, after all, the dirtiest fighters in the world.
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    Reps introduce bill requiring women to register for draft


    Top generals for the Army and Marines said earlier this week that women should be required to register for the draft now that combat jobs are being opened to them.
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  11. "Equality"= Uniform dress code including haircuts, register for the draft, no makeup, no preferential duty assignments, and no alternate jobs when it comes time for the guys to do manual labor.

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