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    Good News For Montana.

    The Montana Shooting Sports Association (MSSA) is reporting today that the Montana self-defense bill, HB-228, is all but a done deal.

    Good news: the Conference Committee stripped the provision that prohibited concealed carry in hospitals & health care facilities.

    Bad news: "Vermont/Alaska" style carry was stripped from the bill early on. We still need permits, but as before, only inside incorporated cities or towns.

    Here's what we get:

    1. A clear policy statement by the Legislature that self defense is
    a natural right and that self defense by citizens reduces crime.

    2. A clear policy statement by the Legislature that the right to
    bear arms in Montana is clearly a fundamental (important legal term)
    and individual right.

    3. Reversal of guilty-until-proven-innocent for people defending
    themselves. This provision requires the state to prove beyond a
    reasonable doubt that a person defending herself or himself was NOT
    justified in using force, rather than the status quo, that defenders
    must prove that they were justified in using force. Trust me, this
    is very important.

    4. Legislative declaration of policy that a defender has no duty to
    summon help or flee before using force to defend, in any place.

    5. Open carry is legal. This has been presumed in Montana, but
    never stated in law. People have been arrested for open carry. This
    will settle that issue for good.

    6. A defender may announce "I have a gun," with no more fear of
    prosecution under Montana's overbroad felony "Intimidation" statute.

    7. Defensive display. A person may show an attacker that the
    defender is armed, and may even draw the gun and still be clearly on
    the right side of the legal line if the defender genuinely fears attack.

    8. Requirement that when police investigate a scene where self
    defense is claimed, investigators must collect evidence that may
    support a claim of self defense as well as any other evidence.

    9. Improved conditions for a defender to use force in any occupied
    structure. This applies to all occupied structures, not just a dwelling.

    10. Police may not destroy any firearms seized. Any firearms seized
    must either be returned to the rightful owner or sold back into the
    marketplace.

    11. Landlords may not prevent tenants from possessing
    firearms. This not only protects travelers staying in motels, but
    also protects those who cannot afford to own their own homes.

    12. Restoration of the right to bear arms for people convicted of
    non-violent crimes who have done their time and been released from
    state supervision. This will not apply to people who have committed
    crimes of violence or crimes where a weapon was used.

    13. The ability to use reasonable force to effect the citizen's
    arrest of a person believed to have committed a crime - to be able to
    hold the person until law enforcement can be summoned (as happened
    yesterday in Thompson Falls).

    14. An immediate effective date. All of this will become effective
    while the ink from the Governor's signature is drying.

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    wolfhunter Guest
    Good to hear this.

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    The original sponsor of the bill, Mr. Krayton Kerns, stated he'll be retrying the Constitutional Carry Stipulation in 2011 when they meet again! That is a ways away in my opinion, but I think I can live with it if it actually is able to take effect!
    *In a crisis you don't rise to the occasion but rather default to your level of training!
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    Even with the Vermont/Alaska provision stripped out, this is a good bill. Then again, Montana has always been one of the most gun friendly states in this great land of ours.
    Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.

    Benjamin Franklin

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    Montana Castle Doctrine Law Signed.

    Gary Marbut, President of the Montana Shooting Sports Association (MSSA) announced today that Governor Brian Schweitzer signed into law HB-228, the Montana Self Defense bill.

    Dear MSSA Friends,

    It's confirmed. The Governor signed HB 228, our Self Defense bill, this morning. The fat lady has sung, and it's time to celebrate.
    Now maybe we'll earn the coveted "F-Minus" grade from the Brady Bunch.

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