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    Quote Originally Posted by troll hunter View Post
    Your other post was over the top though... I captured it before it was deleted.



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    "This may be harsh, but I had a thought as i drove out of town this past monday heading north on I-29. I remembered those living in a bowl, below sea level and right next to the sea, IN AN AREA BELOW SEA LEVEL RIGHT NEXT TO THE OCEAN AND RIGHT NEXT TO A HUGE LAKE, BELOW THE LEVEL OF THE LAKE WATER AS WELL. New Orleans. ...Get my point? I can't even say (type) it here cause it just sounds like something that someone would say simply to raise blood pressures. You know tho, what my thought was that day and deep inside you must agree with it on some level."



    "it just sounds like something that someone would say simply to raise blood pressures"

    and it was just that.

    Sounds like you were asking for it, and you got it
    Troll,

    I looked at your profile. You just joined today and your 2 posts here were not only your first, but your only. Let me guess, you are a member (if not mngmnt) at NFOA and saw your beloved forum moderator needing some help. You joined here, just to say nanny-nanny-boo-boo to simply bring some credibility, or try to, to the NFOA after their narrowmindedness and PC alignment was exposed. ...Am I right?

    You cannot convince me that my posts were over the top. What WAS over the top is the demonstrated hyper-sensitivity that the NFOA moderator has. Political correctness and a misguided sense of moral superiority is what I consider to be "over the top" and that NFOA moderator, and you, are flying high.
    1)"When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty." -Thomas Jefferson.
    2)"Imagine how gun control might be stomped if GOA or SAF had the (compromising) NRA's 4 million members!" -Me. http://jpfo.org/filegen-n-z/nraletter.htm

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  3. Ist amendment has nothing to do with spewing crap on a website.

    You are no more free to do that here than you are in my living room.

    Read this forums rules and you will see that your post on NFOA about illegal CCW is a violation and would have been deleted if you had posted it here, or at least you should have been warned about it.

  4. Nope I am just an long time Nebraska guy and saw your post in a google search. Since I remember your posts I thought I would set the record straight.

    Otherwise your not worth much of my time

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    Quote Originally Posted by troll hunter:240594
    Nope I am just an long time Nebraska guy and saw your post in a google search. Since I remember your posts I thought I would set the record straight.

    Otherwise your not worth much of my time
    Something stinks here.

    Tuts40 posts in June that his post was deleted. You show up in November saying "ooh yeah, I recorded that post in June....that I didn't know was going to be deleted but it did get deleted and I have it.". Please clarify if I'm wrong in this.

    So you claim that you randomly googled your forum and found a post from the person that you had randomly recorded not knowing it would be deleted. GOOD GOD MAN LET'S GO TO VEGAS! Because you are the most lucky man on earth...... Or you lie like a rug.... A very cheap crappy rug.

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    Troll Hunter 'friend requested' me. Sorry Troll, I prefer those demostrating over time a commitment to freedom, a certain "honesty" over time in regard to thier beliefs, the beliefs being a love of freedom in regard to our Bill of Rights. A bowing toward political correctness shows me that you are not of that thinking.

    Take your friend request to the ACLU or MoveOn.org, they would likely be more receptive to you.
    1)"When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty." -Thomas Jefferson.
    2)"Imagine how gun control might be stomped if GOA or SAF had the (compromising) NRA's 4 million members!" -Me. http://jpfo.org/filegen-n-z/nraletter.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by troll hunter View Post
    Nope I am just an long time Nebraska guy and saw your post in a google search. Since I remember your posts I thought I would set the record straight.

    Otherwise your not worth much of my time
    I forgot to include this idea in my post up there: If I am not worth "much of your time" then why friend request me? Do you treat all your friends as not worthy of your time?

    If you publically rebuke your political correctness and on this forum show you are sorry and that you repent for your support of NFOA and thier apparent adoration of all things NOT freedom oriented, and if you apologize for your lack of respect for the right to speak openly and plainly, and you show real remorse for siding with those that would have us very carefully pick and choose what we can and cannot say, I might, just might, maybe accept your next friend request. Till then, please research the ideas of "Freedom versus politcal correctness" and "friends don't let friends act PC".
    1)"When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty." -Thomas Jefferson.
    2)"Imagine how gun control might be stomped if GOA or SAF had the (compromising) NRA's 4 million members!" -Me. http://jpfo.org/filegen-n-z/nraletter.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by troll hunter View Post
    Ist amendment has nothing to do with spewing crap on a website.

    You are no more free to do that here than you are in my living room.

    Read this forums rules and you will see that your post on NFOA about illegal CCW is a violation and would have been deleted if you had posted it here, or at least you should have been warned about it.
    Anybody care to do some of the heavy lifting on this one? I've had too much fun already with this guy's silliness, I'll share.
    1)"When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty." -Thomas Jefferson.
    2)"Imagine how gun control might be stomped if GOA or SAF had the (compromising) NRA's 4 million members!" -Me. http://jpfo.org/filegen-n-z/nraletter.htm

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    So your an admitted unconvicted Felon?

    Tut,

    From one of your posts on the NFOA forum;

    "If lives, including your own, are in danger and innocent lives could be saved by taking action with a handgun, why would you not want one with you? Did you really go the the event unarmed? I bet not. I'd hope not. After all, if your life was about to be taken by a knife or gun wielding thug at a gathering of sheeples, would you rather be a (illegal) law following victim or a (illegal) law breaker that saves your own life? I either do not go at all to these things or i go armed. Period. It pisses me off when people think that following illegal laws and potentially placing themselves in further jeopardy is a good or noble thing."

    You not only admitted to willfully committing misdemeanor criminal acts, you also confessed to, what is in some instances, a chargable felony. Further you chastized others for failure to aid and abet you in the commission of these criminal offenses.

    Do the laws need to be changed? Yes!

    Is the Felonious Civil Disobediance you advocate the answer? No!

    Tell me how it helps "The Cause" or gets laws changed, for members of the NFOA forum or this one for that matter to be convicted of felonies. Felonies that will prevent you from legally owning a firearm for the rest of your life?

    No, you do not have the Right to say anything you want on the NFOA or any other forum. The NFOA is a PRIVATE forum as is this one. The creators established rules of conduct that you agreed to when you registered as a member.

    If you violate those rules by admitting to, encouraging and critisizing others for not joining you in the wilfull commission of a felony you will be suspended or banned.

    That the moderator chose to ban you for thirty days is in my opinion less than a slap on the wrist. I would have banned you for good and penned a post about why you would never be allowed to return.

    By the way Tut, my screen name is the same on the NFOA forum as it is here. In 2003 I started what has become the NFOA and I am very humbled by what the all volunteer, no membership fee, grassroots organization has become and accomplished.

    Not one person has personally profited from any money raised by the NFOA and members contribute thousands of volunteer hours annually. Hours that have changed the laws in Nebraska for the better.

    In truth the NFOA does not need individuals, such as yourself, that participate in or advocate criminal behavior that will tear down all of the positive progress that has been made in the last 8 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunscribe View Post
    Tut,

    From one of your posts on the NFOA forum;

    "If lives, including your own, are in danger and innocent lives could be saved by taking action with a handgun, why would you not want one with you? Did you really go the the event unarmed? I bet not. I'd hope not. After all, if your life was about to be taken by a knife or gun wielding thug at a gathering of sheeples, would you rather be a (illegal) law following victim or a (illegal) law breaker that saves your own life? I either do not go at all to these things or i go armed. Period. It pisses me off when people think that following illegal laws and potentially placing themselves in further jeopardy is a good or noble thing."

    You not only admitted to willfully committing misdemeanor criminal acts, you also confessed to, what is in some instances, a chargable felony. Further you chastized others for failure to aid and abet you in the commission of these criminal offenses.

    Do the laws need to be changed? Yes!

    Is the Felonious Civil Disobediance you advocate the answer? No!

    Tell me how it helps "The Cause" or gets laws changed, for members of the NFOA forum or this one for that matter to be convicted of felonies. Felonies that will prevent you from legally owning a firearm for the rest of your life?

    No, you do not have the Right to say anything you want on the NFOA or any other forum. The NFOA is a PRIVATE forum as is this one. The creators established rules of conduct that you agreed to when you registered as a member.

    If you violate those rules by admitting to, encouraging and critisizing others for not joining you in the wilfull commission of a felony you will be suspended or banned.

    That the moderator chose to ban you for thirty days is in my opinion less than a slap on the wrist. I would have banned you for good and penned a post about why you would never be allowed to return.

    By the way Tut, my screen name is the same on the NFOA forum as it is here. In 2003 I started what has become the NFOA and I am very humbled by what the all volunteer, no membership fee, grassroots organization has become and accomplished.

    Not one person has personally profited from any money raised by the NFOA and members contribute thousands of volunteer hours annually. Hours that have changed the laws in Nebraska for the better.

    In truth the NFOA does not need individuals, such as yourself, that participate in or advocate criminal behavior that will tear down all of the positive progress that has been made in the last 8 years.
    Thank you for your response. Take a moment, close your eyes, in through the nose, out through the mouth. There, better? OK...

    I did NOT say I went to THAT or any other SPECIFIC event or location armed, while such event or location had anti-gun signage and therefore did NOT admit to any specific crime. I stated I would either not go, or I would go armed (if I ever did go). Nice try, but you can exhale now.

    The work NFOA does on behalf of the Nebraska gun owner is impressive, no doubt, and your organization as a whole is commendable. My problem is with the forum and the moderator with the heavy subscription to all things PC. I did not read any rules at the NFOA forum about likening those locally living in a flood plain to those living below sea level right next to the ocean. Nor the rule dictating that the members should not point out the managements allegiance to all things politically correct. I knew I was not going to be in his good graces by doing so. No, it was no surprise to me he locked me out for 30 days as calling out such behavior of management never goes unpunished...

    My belief that laws violating the Bill of Rights are illegal should not be a problem for anyone else and yes changing those laws should continue to be something we all participate in.

    As far as the forum at NFOA being private and they should be allowed to dictated what offends their PC sensibilities well, you have a point. Just like any anti-gun location or any other 'place' I have the choice to be there or not and I haven't been back to the overly sensitively managed forum since the PC burdened moderator punished me for calling out his PC-ness (you missed that quote as he likely deleted it) and putting me on a 30 day 'suspension'. It's a shame that a leading firearm rights group in my state, in my opinion, supports or bows down to the very weapon many use in attempting to inflict gun control - political correctness.

    We differ here, that's ok, there is no shame in it. As for me, i do not apologize for what I typed at that forum. I still believe I and (most) anyone, and that should be another topic elsewhere, should go armed everywhere they go. I did NOT say, just then in the previous sentence, that I DO go armed everywhere despite signage, for those desiring another chance to confuse what was said with the admission of a "crime". I said that I and (most) everyone should go armed wherever they go. If I choose, however, to go armed everywhere despite signage, I will not admit it publicly now or in the future! That is an opinion. Violent criminals do not care what sign is where or what event or area disallows guns. Well, actually they prefer to "work" in such areas! Columbine, Virginia Tech, the post office that gave us the saying "going postal", Westroads mall, etc. Yeah, I can avoid such locations, and many likely do. That's ok.

    By the way, at NFOA a paper of mine was published at the site and I appreciate it. "Lessons Unlearned from the Westroads Shooting". It can be found by going to nebraskafirearms.org and searching "westroads" on the home page. Oh, good to see that Rod M. is working with you. I purchased my G22 from him and some other stuff awhile back. Good guy indeed.

    Please read the following paragraph twice:

    If some evil gun toting CCW permit holder had been at Von Maur that day and shot that kid dead thus saving lives, do you really think he or she would be prosecuted? Maybe, likely not. Either way, and the laws be damned, the saving of lives would have been the best and most honorable thing that person would have likely done in their lifetime...

    I appreciate your opinions, gunscribe, and hope you are having a great day today on this sunny and unseasonably warm Sunday.
    1)"When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty." -Thomas Jefferson.
    2)"Imagine how gun control might be stomped if GOA or SAF had the (compromising) NRA's 4 million members!" -Me. http://jpfo.org/filegen-n-z/nraletter.htm

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    nyfireams has a similar problem with insecure moderators. They simply can't deal with anything that doesn't represent their perception of the general consensus of forum participants. It's just a maturity issue, not really a freedom of speech issue.

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