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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by 1015811414 View Post
    Nevada Assemblyman David Bobzien is introducing legislation for the up coming 2011 legislative session that would make semi-auto handguns the same as for revolvers for Nevada CCW permits. He thinks the differentiation is silly. Tell your representatives and senators to cosponsor and vote for the bill to pass. I have also asked him to look into correcting Nevada law to bypass the NICS check each time you purchase a firearm if you carry a Nevada CCW.

    Hans
    SB 126 and AB 143 both in respective judiciary committees.
    I love my country, but I fear my government. Molon Labe!

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  3. Some common sense with respect to reciprocity with other states would also go a long way in bringing us tourists back to Nevada. I will not set foot in Nevada until I am able to defend myself and my family. If you have never been in the position of being unable to do so - trust me - I have that T shirt.

    Training should not be forced upon those wanting a CCW permit in Nevada - at least not that it be taken IN NEVADA. I have more training than many of the trainers yet if I want a Nevada permit I am going to have to make a special trip, take a training course witha revolver and with the handguns that I wish to carry (that changes every couple of years, no?).... etc.

    Arizona is happy to take my permits from any state that requires an NRA live fire course or other proof of suitable training. I am IPSC black badge qualified for competition, etc., etc. So what is the point of having to come all the way to Nevada to take training if I am already trained and am a just and upright citizen and on the square?

    Lots of changes that need to be thought about. Las Vegas is slowly making its way up the list of the country's most violent cities.

    Good luck in 2011 - I sincerely hope that you can make some headway with legislature to make CCW more sensible.

  4. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by torontogunguy View Post
    Some common sense with respect to reciprocity with other states would also go a long way in bringing us tourists back to Nevada. I will not set foot in Nevada until I am able to defend myself and my family. If you have never been in the position of being unable to do so - trust me - I have that T shirt.

    Training should not be forced upon those wanting a CCW permit in Nevada - at least not that it be taken IN NEVADA. I have more training than many of the trainers yet if I want a Nevada permit I am going to have to make a special trip, take a training course witha revolver and with the handguns that I wish to carry (that changes every couple of years, no?).... etc.

    Arizona is happy to take my permits from any state that requires an NRA live fire course or other proof of suitable training. I am IPSC black badge qualified for competition, etc., etc. So what is the point of having to come all the way to Nevada to take training if I am already trained and am a just and upright citizen and on the square?

    Lots of changes that need to be thought about. Las Vegas is slowly making its way up the list of the country's most violent cities.

    Good luck in 2011 - I sincerely hope that you can make some headway with legislature to make CCW more sensible.
    I cannot disagree with your thoughts.

    However, you CAN open carry in Nevada. Recommended? Perhaps NOT in all places/situations. Although legal in most places, including casinos, banks, etc, many such places frown (severely) on it and will ask you to leave.

    Again, I understand your thoughts on the subject!

    Our biggest stumbling block to wider CCW recognition is the Nevada Sheriffs & Chiefs Ass'n.

    Note: Nevada does NOT have reciprocity. We DO have a system in place to recognize other states CCW permits IF the states requirements are equal to, or more stringent, than Nevada's requirements. Our legislature has given the NSCA final approval authority.

    We're working on that. But it ain't fast and it ain't necessarily easy!

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    law was passed, you can now qualify with a semi and carry any semi, just like the revolver, caant remember statue, but im sure you can find it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn Jarman View Post
    law was passed, you can now qualify with a semi and carry any semi, just like the revolver, caant remember statue, but im sure you can find it
    This is true,

    My CCW just came in and it states Semi Autos Authorized and Revolvers Authorized.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by IamGiorgious View Post
    This is true,

    My CCW just came in and it states Semi Autos Authorized and Revolvers Authorized.

    Me too

  8. I see progress is being made! Got my AZ CFP even though they don't require one.... just 'cuz'. I am a U.S. citizen. Got a passport to prove it and was registered for Selective Service when I turned 18 a long time ago.... but I have lived in Canada for most of my life, mainly because that is where my parents moved to (US citizens as well), that is where they worked, that is where I went to school and where my friends and about half my family live (the other half spread throughout the US).

    Long story short... it is amazing how much of a difference there is between "US RESIDENT" and "US CITIZEN". I am one of "We the People" in only a portion of the states. I carry concealed carry permits from UT, NH, ME, PA, AZ, VA and would like to add NV to the collection, simply because I can. And to be honest, because the reciprocity between states is so darned convoluted, that the more permits I have (especially as a non-resident), the more states I am likely to be legal in. It is insane. Am I one of "We the People" or am I not? Is a resident one of "We the People" regardless of citizenship in many states over a citizen? Yep. Take Florida for instance.... they will only recognize a permit issued to a resident of Florida (resident permit) or a resident of another state that they recognize as a matter of course. They will only ISSUE a non-resident permit to a resident of the USA, regardless of citizenship (I think this was a typo error in the processing of the legislation as it was simply 'must be a citizen of the USA' all along until it hit the printer. Then it became "must be a resident of the USA AND must be a citizen of the USA". Sic. I don't visit Florida any longer until they will either issue me a non-resident permit or recognize one of my myriad of non-resident permits from other states. I could do what many do and rent a trailer spot at a trailer park and become a 'resident' by registering to vote... but that's not the point is it?

    So, we are off to Las Vegas (known in these parts as "Lost Wages") Nevada and am hoping that I can arrange in advance a one-day course to get my NV non-resident concealed carry permit to add to my collection. I will rent a Glock 30 or perhaps 34 to qualify on and a S&W 686 for qualifying on revolvers.... easier than trying to travel by air with them... and a lot safer and much less hassle. And we don't have to worry about where we are going to store them while in Las Vegas (although the issue is now somewhat mitigated by the fact that NV recognizes my AZ permit).

    When we travel, we carry a tablet computer and data stick for when our WiFi has no hotspot to connect to. Why? So we can be sure that we have the latest information on what the laws are for the states we are travelling through.

    Does this country (USA) need a National Reciprocity Law? I'll let you guess what my opinion is.

    For those of you that have never had to cause to have or use a weapon in self defense, let me tell you that it is something that you NEVER EVER want to be in a position to require. I have that T shirt x 3 including one episode of a whacko, high as a kite guy attempting to carjack my car with family in it about five years ago right by Mickey's home in Orlando/Kissimmee. The revolver barrel was 105mm... I could swear. More likely a .45Colt... it was H>U>G>E>!!! And it was right in my nose so I could see the tips of rounds in the piece. About as close to messing myself as I have ever come. But with training (and no gun thank goodness....it would have caused me greater grief) I managed to extricate myself from the situation unharmed. It took me the entire two weeks of vacation to calm down and when I got home I began my quest for permits from any state that would issue one to me.. and here I stand, recognized by and in about 40 states but having to check before entering each state and having to holster, unholster, and lock the fixin's up in two seperate mini-safe's bolted into the back of our Ford Flex. Working to unholster while concealed inside the car, unload, trigger lock, encase and transfer the gun to the safe in the back in a black cloth shopping bag every time we enter a state where we are no legal or a zone in that state where we are not legal (school zones, rest stops, you name it.... good to have a computer onhand for the latest!)

    The new law in Nevada that allows one to qualify for ANY semiauto and ANY revolver is a wonderful improvement. Now let's get that National Reciprocity Bill that was so overwhelmingly passed in the House moved onto the floor and passed in the SENATE! And lose the politicians that have no idea of what it's like to have a gun stuck in your nose with your family in your car while on vacation and unarmed. Or having multiple aggressors attempting to break into your home with guns and pry bars (high as kits also) while you stand inside on the phone with 911 awaiting police intervention and hollering at the top of your lungs "I'm armed and if you enter I will shoot you" (had no effect whatever). Not once but twice! And we live in a great part of town here. Oh, and with our alarm sirens blaring inside and out and the houselights on the ground floor inside and out flashing at the same time. No effect. High as a kite on drugs and figuring we were going to be easy marks.... we were NOT going to be easy marks and are grateful that the police took them down at gunpoint. But since they did not achieve entry I imagine they were only charged with trespass and fined and let go. Laws need changing too.

    National reciprocity. We need to let our Senators know what it means to us and what it will do for their political aspirations. We are Life Members of NRA here. A united voice goes a long way as well.... and I hope that it makes some necessary changes in November.

    Thanks for listening. Anyone knowing of a shop in the Las Vegas area that can help us out with a one day course, rental handguns and all the fixin's for our non-res application.... please post or PM me. Next to visiting lodge again in Vegas this is right at the top of my list.

  9. As stated, the NV CCW now allows for any auto or revolver to be carried under a CCW as long as one tested with both a wheel gun and auto. It you have an older CCW listing a specific auto or wheel gun or both the testing was the same as now so even though the older CCW may list a specific auto or wheel gun by SR# one can in fact now carry any auto or wheel gun. An additional forum to get good info is opencarry.org. Very active for Nevada. However, mostly open carry most have CCW often post up to date info on the subject.

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