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    Ulster Co Permit denial

    Ive decided to start a new thread for this, poor dendrokeeper had his thread hijacked by my situation.
    Here is what I have posted before in "Ulster County Application"



    Hahahahahahha,
    I just recently found out my permit application has hereby been denied.
    "Due to your background information and the personal interview, your application for a pistol permit is hereby denied, you may reapply in one year"

    Just a few facts,
    US Navy Combat Vet.
    ZERO tickets, convictions or anything for that matter.
    I own multiple properties in NY state.
    Spoke to permit office, ladies in there even said "Wtf?" about my denial letter. As far as my understanding is, I would have to be denied by an Official SPECIFIC reason, that I may appeal at my choice.

    The wonderful ladies in the permit office are going to try resubmitting my application to the new Judge Williams with a letter I have written. Apparently some of the background information that is run on all of us applicants also includes other persons who's names or DOBs are similar, even states that on the form. Judge Schneer chose to ignore this little fact and hold me responsible for other persons actions.

    Any questions, comments or suggestions would be very welcome as I have no idea what to do or prepare for.

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    With the issues you state it sounds as though Judge Schneer is sneering at you, and probably at anyone like you. Major twit on power trip.

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    Hunter you speak the truth.
    From the diggin ive been doin, a bunch of people got denied right before she left office, who she didn't deny had their file wrapped up and shipped off to Judge Williams.
    Im glad she lost the election, We can do without that kind of behavior from her.

  5. Once your denied it becomes almost impossible in NY to get a pistol permit.A mandatory wait of ONE YEAR to re-apply and hope a good attorney can get you a permit.I have read your posts and you knew of a problem so you need to be honest here because I know there was an issue by what the letter said by you not passing the backround and interview.You had an interview and wrote about the events that day.Apparently the judge did not want to see any of your paper work.That is a sign your having a problem.I know she looks at paper work when it came to an interview,if you had training or can show cause that is part of the interview.Many of the locals were unprepared from what I know, she issued many restricted permits but also went by with what was on your backround and if anything was unclear she wanted an explanation under oath.I know in your other post you have an issue with Ulster County.I can tell you that you may never get a pistol permit by doing it alone.You need a good attorney that can get you a permit now.I know it may cost you a few thousand ,but it could be a very good learning experience.From the diggin ive been doin,I bet you wont get a pistol permit this year because its fact!!!

  6. Quote Originally Posted by Sights on Target View Post
    Keep in mind that he was not the only one denied like this. There were quite a few people, all at the same time. From what I am told, this situation has never happened and for a judge who was on her way out the door does not pass the smell test.

    You are right though..Once denied it is very close to impossible to obtain a permit. Luck and a good lawyer might make the difference.
    So what your saying is that this judge would allow a bad apple slide by and screw the honest law abiding civilian?.....I doubt it, you know that you must meet a certain criteria by passing the backroud than the interview so yes it is difficult here in NY to get a permit but not imposssible.If this guy along with the others were spot free in the backround they would have passed.The only problem all the permits issued before this were without an interview,so this and other guys must meet the requirements set in section 400.of the NYPL.More people passed than failed but think it's a different ball game now that you have an interview.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sights on Target View Post
    Where in my post can you infer that I would think a bad apple would slide through? What I said was from what I have been told, after loosing re-election, she denied all permits on her desk that had yet been signed. I do not know if this is actually the case, but I head it from a person who is high up in county government. If there was in issue in the background...I would think that the judge would ask about it during the interview, but that would be common sense. And FYI. The judge did not want to see supporting documents from people that she did issue permits to as well.

    Judge Schneer did not want to see anything during my interview, from anyone that went up before her.
    I tried to offer copies of property tax bills, DD214, military pistol qualification, safety courses, defense courses I have taken out west years ago. She wanted NONE of it.
    Now how is that making a fair and honest decision when the Judge plays ignorant, Hunter One?
    There is a difference of being denied because of your past actions and behavior versus being denied with no reason given (Law States it HAS to be SPECIFIC) especially when myself and others were never given a fair and honest interview with the Judge.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Lunytoon95 View Post
    Judge Schneer did not want to see anything during my interview, from anyone that went up before her.
    I tried to offer copies of property tax bills, DD214, military pistol qualification, safety courses, defense courses I have taken out west years ago. She wanted NONE of it.
    Now how is that making a fair and honest decision when the Judge plays ignorant, Hunter One?
    There is a difference of being denied because of your past actions and behavior versus being denied with no reason given (Law States it HAS to be SPECIFIC) especially when myself and others were never given a fair and honest interview with the Judge.
    So lets be honest,I read your other post which gave indications you were notified that a problem did exist with an associated name and DOB, so the judge took it out on you for the other persons actions.I feel bad that you were denied a pistol permit.My question is did you have a pistol permit issued from another state.Any obstacles you may know of need to be taken care of before you apply for a pistol permit.You have to remember times have changed the interview caused a problem for many locals.Judge Shneer was the county judge so permits for pistols came last, civil & criminal matters go first.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Sights on Target View Post
    Where in my post can you infer that I would think a bad apple would slide through? What I said was from what I have been told, after loosing re-election, she denied all permits on her desk that had yet been signed. I do not know if this is actually the case, but I head it from a person who is high up in county government. If there was in issue in the background...I would think that the judge would ask about it during the interview, but that would be common sense. And FYI. The judge did not want to see supporting documents from people that she did issue permits to as well.
    The way she left office did not smell right.I can tell you this she put all other applicants in an envelope for the new judge to do since she was busy attending to other important matters in the county.It's incorrect you do not now so dont bother even writting it down.You need to be careful since you advertise your business here.Apparently this guy already had an issue and was denied.He needs to man up and hire an attorney instead he's talking to lawyers and judges?Even you wrote that they can deny you.The SPECIFIC reason he was not issued a permit was his backround and interview.That is why he needs an attorney,he could have hired one while he was going through his backround with the lawyers letter to notify his office if there is a problem.Now this guy is crying I wont wait a year!

  10. New York is a MAY issue state so you can be denied.However anyone that is clean and is of a good moral character meets the criteria may be issued.If you apply for a permit it always a good idea to have good character refrences.Also include any certificates like hunter safety or NRA handgun safety courses.I have even seen letters from attorneys to contact them if there client may have an issue.Applying for a permit in NY is very easy in the upstate counties.

  11. schneer totally sucked.accident of a .judge appointed by an accident of a governor.with 10000 more dems than reps in this county she managed to get her clock cleaned.im a dem and i know she was unqualified.i didnt want to be judged by her,i went out like alot of people and got rid of her .good riddance.her only loyal constituancy were crips, bloods and a seven time dwi drug dealing fugitive. now the other judges gotta clean up, and theyre busy,so i doubt thats gonna happen.it was theyre decision to require these interviews and for the out of control taxes i pay in this county i want them to make the time or go back to letting the sheriff handle us.

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