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    Did you vote for this guy?

    The Daily News this week accompanied State Sen. Eric Adams
    (D-Brooklyn) to two gun stores near Albany that routinely sell the
    high-capacity clips.

    The large magazines - used by the likes of Jared Loughner, who shot
    Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed six in January - are still
    allowed in New York if they were manufactured before the 1994 law.

    Both stores Adams visited claim they sell the old, legal models.

    At Guns Inc. in Rensselaer, a Daily News hidden camera looked on as
    Adams bought two 30-round magazines for an AK-47 assault rifle.

    The senator used his credit card to buy the clips - at $42.19 each -
    and walked out less than five minutes later without even having to
    show identification.

    At B&J Shooting Supply in nearby Colonie, Adams arrived to find the
    shelves cleared out of large volume magazines.

    "We expect them any time now," a store worker told Adams. "We have a
    bunch ordered."

    Legal experts say there is a glaring loophole: There's often no way
    to tell when a magazine was made.

    No law requires gunmakers to put a serial number or any kind of
    identifying mark on a clip unless it was made during the now-expired
    federal assault weapons ban, which ran from 1994 to 2004.

    The New York ban did not expire, and gun control advocates warn gun
    owners and stores could potentially buy new magazines in another
    state and pass them off here as a pre-1994 version.

    "All somebody would have to do is show an old receipt. You couldn't
    know for sure," said Paul Helmke of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

    "This is why we need stronger federal laws because even when states
    do the right thing, it's hard for them to do so effectively when you
    can just go to the next state."

    Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-L.I.) has a bill in Congress that would ban
    the sale of all extended magazines across the country, though it's
    unlikely to gain much Republican support.

    Adams is proposing similar legislation for New York.

    "This bill is going to close the loophole so the clips are banned,
    period," Adams said. "The more rounds you're able to discharge prior
    to having to reload, the more dangerous you are."

    Mayor Bloomberg recently spent $130,000 of city money to hire
    detectives with hidden cameras to show how it easy it is to pick up
    high-powered weapons - including extended magazines - at an Arizona
    gun show in the wake of the Tucson massacre.

    "Before we can deal with Arizona," Adams said, "we need clean up our
    own state."

    Jackie Hilly of New Yorkers Against Gun Violence said extended
    magazines have been used "in every mass shooting in the last five
    years. ... People who use them know they are able to increase the
    lethality of what they're doing dramatically."

    Sellers insist they follow the law.

    "What are they going to ban next?" asked a manager of Guns Inc., who
    refused to give his name. "I think a state senator has more to do and
    worry about in this environment than how many bullets a guy can put
    into a gun."

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    I have a grand idea, instead of making guns and large magazines illegal lets make it illegal to kill people in cold blood. Oh wait it already is against the law and criminals don't seem to care about laws. When are you idiots on the left going to learn that and stop passing laws that only affect law abiding citizens ?
    "The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that is good." - George Washington

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigspurr View Post
    I have a grand idea, instead of making guns and large magazines illegal lets make it illegal to kill people in cold blood. Oh wait it already is against the law and criminals don't seem to care about laws. When are you idiots on the left going to learn that and stop passing laws that only affect law abiding citizens ?
    To answer your question. Never..
    But what I don't get is why this surprises anyone. Do you still believe that their real concern is for public safety?
    When they pass these ineffectual laws, its not about safety. Its all about control.

    Lately the political trend has been to ease gum control. And that infuriates the left. So every time they get the chance, they have to shout "SEE WE NEED TO BAN THESE EVIL GUNS AND CLIPS(magazines)." They know the truth.
    But you can't get anything banned saying, " I know this law won't prevent a criminal from having it. But I really don't want you to have them either".
    Since the general population only hears one side of the argument, They accept it as the truth.
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    I think they use the "clip" terminology just to annoy gun owners.
    Urban gang culture is about as far as you can get from legal gun ownership, but they think they know all there is to know about guns. If the gun control folks in New York are anything like the Philadelphia city council, then they are clueless to the real facts.

    I haven't looked like a teenager in a few years now, but I have never had to show my ID to buy a magazine. I think Walmart asked me once for ID when I bought ammunition. On a good day, I think I can still pass for 30! It's like not needing to card someone in their 50s before they buy a drink.

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    The large magazines - used by the likes of Jared Loughner,
    I would like to know who some of "the likes" are.

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