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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou R View Post
    It did happen, please explain that
    Easy. Someone violated the law and got caught. The people must demand a resignation.

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    NY State is the test case for disarmament at the Federal level. Plus, is it any coincidence that Obamacare requires all medical records be converted to digital? It's a lot easier to ILLEGALLY search medical records via computer than having to get a warrant before physically walking into a doctor's office to search those pesky paper records.

    This goes as high as Emperor (oops)....Governor Cuomo. The New York State Police are actually part of the Executive Branch of NY Government. They report directly to the Governor. AND... as late as yesterday, it was reported that the NY State Police rank and file DO NOT support the NY Safe Act, nor the ILLEGAL INVASION OF PRIVACY and VIOLATION OF THE 4TH AMENDMENT, but are being told in no uncertain terms to keep their mouths shut!

    To all of the people (including the anti-2A crowd) who think this is a 2nd Amendment issue....YOU ARE MISTAKEN!!! THIS IS NOW A 4TH AMENDMENT ISSUE....YOUR PRIVACY IS AT RISK!!!

    At the beginning of this latest round of the Gun debate, someone said "if the 2nd Amendment falls....all others are in danger".... well, it's happening. The uninformed are allowing the 4th to be violated in the name of repealing the 2nd......BUT WHAT COMES NEXT? The 1st?.....will it be a crime to disagree with Obama or the village idiot Biden?

    WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrs View Post
    NY State is the test case for disarmament at the Federal level. Plus, is it any coincidence that Obamacare requires all medical records be converted to digital? It's a lot easier to ILLEGALLY search medical records via computer than having to get a warrant before physically walking into a doctor's office to search those pesky paper records.

    This goes as high as Emperor (oops)....Governor Cuomo. The New York State Police are actually part of the Executive Branch of NY Government. They report directly to the Governor. AND... as late as yesterday, it was reported that the NY State Police rank and file DO NOT support the NY Safe Act, nor the ILLEGAL INVASION OF PRIVACY and VIOLATION OF THE 4TH AMENDMENT, but are being told in no uncertain terms to keep their mouths shut!

    To all of the people (including the anti-2A crowd) who think this is a 2nd Amendment issue....YOU ARE MISTAKEN!!! THIS IS NOW A 4TH AMENDMENT ISSUE....YOUR PRIVACY IS AT RISK!!!

    At the beginning of this latest round of the Gun debate, someone said "if the 2nd Amendment falls....all others are in danger".... well, it's happening. The uninformed are allowing the 4th to be violated in the name of repealing the 2nd......BUT WHAT COMES NEXT? The 1st?.....will it be a crime to disagree with Obama or the village idiot Biden?

    WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!
    Very well stated. This is getting out of hand in a number of states.

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    Just heard Max Tresmond on Baurle's show (WBEN 930 AM)about an hour ago. He said they are in the 'discovery' stage of the suit at this time, but I understand from what he said, there are confidential informants who came forward to verify that the State Police "covert squad" was put together to circumvent Federal HIPPA laws for the purpose of revocation of gun permits.

    He didn't expand on the suit as it is in discovery, but did verify that there was more than one person who came forward...and it seems that the only reason it 'apparently' has stopped, is THEY GOT CAUGHT!!!

    Max covered a lot of different topics, serial #'s on ammo, Safe Act repeal/pending cases, and one topic I was unaware of...NY is a "Must Issue" state if you want a handgun for "home protection" only. It would be a good idea to listen to the show, approx. 1 hour, when Tom Baurle puts it up on his site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrs View Post
    Just heard Max Tresmond on Baurle's show (WBEN 930 AM)about an hour ago. He said they are in the 'discovery' stage of the suit at this time, but I understand from what he said, there are confidential informants who came forward to verify that the State Police "covert squad" was put together to circumvent Federal HIPPA laws for the purpose of revocation of gun permits.
    The second a lawsuit was filed, those "confidential informants" we no longer confidential because the discovery rules require that all known witnesses be disclosed. The defendant in a lawsuit has the option of requesting discovery first, an option most defendants exercise. So it is more than likely that the Tresmond has already disclosed that information to the state.

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    Maybe not... if they requested certain documents and/or correspondence relating to a case, they only have to ask for those documents...they don't have to disclose how they found out about or who told them about those documents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrs View Post
    Maybe not... if they requested certain documents and/or correspondence relating to a case, they only have to ask for those documents...they don't have to disclose how they found out about or who told them about those documents.
    Standard discovery will include the flowing demand under Article 31:

    PLEASE TAKE NOTICE that pursuant to CPLR Article 31, the undersigned attorneys for the Defendant hereby demands that the Plaintiff serve upon the undersigned, within twenty (20) days of the service of this notice, the following:


    1. Copies of statements, whether signed or otherwise, of the aforesaid Defendant or the agents, servants, or employees of the Defendant concerning the issues in this action.


    2. Names and addresses of each and every witness to any event which is the subject of the above-entitled action;

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